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| Re: Calls for 'neglected' Barrow-in-Furness railway station buildings to be saved In "Railway History and related topics" [374564/31949/55] Posted by Mark A at 18:12, 28th April 2026 | ![]() |
Provocatively, the ancient 6" OS mapping records yet another site for the first station in Barrow. Also, it's well worth dropping by the map to see the extent to which the area has changed. Barrow, then, was tiny.
Mark
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.8&lat=54.10800&lon=-3.22058&layers=257&b=GoogleSat&o=100
| Re: Lines I travelled on but are no longer available (GB Version) In "Railway History and related topics" [374563/31938/55] Posted by grahame at 17:55, 28th April 2026 | ![]() |
And, like many members, Blackfriars-Holborn Viaduct.
Unusually among the "no longer available", Blackfriars to Holborn Viaduct was replaced by an alternative when it closed with few (if any) train journey opportunities lost. I often looked at the derelict tracks down to the widened lines, after through freights has cease, and thought "what a waste ..."


| Re: GWR website limited to one journey (single or return) per transaction In "Fare's Fair" [374562/31948/4] Posted by grahame at 17:25, 28th April 2026 | ![]() |
However, it seems that following the GWR website update earlier this year, you are now limited to purchasing only one journey (single or return) per transaction.
This is a real nuisance, especially when trying to book a long journey using split tickets!
This is a real nuisance, especially when trying to book a long journey using split tickets!

I don't think I would apply the word "update" because that suggests an improvement ...
What an unfortunate co-incidence that buying longer journeys in sections - a perfectly valid practise - has been made so much harder.
I'm posting this topic here, because it is purely railway-related history.
From the BBC:
Calls for 'neglected' railway station to be saved

The Victorian Society said the Strand station and club was a "focal point" for Barrow for more than a century - Image © Thomas Ollivier
A "neglected" Victorian former railway station and railwaymen's club should be reclaimed before it is lost, a group has claimed.
The Grade II-listed Strand Railway Station was Barrow-in-Furness's first railway station in 1863, evolving into a railwaymen's club in the early 1900s and serving as a social space until 2008.
The Victorian Society, which campaigns to preserve heritage, added it to a list of endangered buildings and said it stood "vacant and deteriorating" despite being a "focal point" for Barrow for more than a century.
Campaign for Real Ale's (CAMRA) Pub Heritage Group said its "prolonged closure is a tragedy for the town and its heritage, and must serve its community once again".
The Victorian Society said the Strand "stood at the centre of the transformation" of Barrow when it became a "major industrial and maritime centre, driven by the extraction of iron ore and the development of rail and dock infrastructure".
By 1856, 464,823 tonnes of iron ore were raised in Furness, of which 445,013 tonnes were transported via the Furness Railway and shipped from Barrow, the society said. Barrow's central station and a new through-route was opened in 1882, with the Strand being relegated to secondary uses. In the early 1900s, the building became a reading and library room for railway employees, with parts of the site being used as a drill hall.

The Victorian Society said the Strand Railway Station was "vacant and deteriorating" - Image © Thomas Ollivier
"It provided educational and social facilities and remained a focal point for the community for over a century," the Victorian Society said.
Its northern conservation adviser Thomas Ollivier explained: "For a long while the club was teetotal, reflecting the rise of temperance in working communities as part of non-conformist religious beliefs. Sadly, time was called at the club in the summer of 2008 after a 101-year history."
The society said the building was owned by an "absentee landlord and was in visible decline", calling for it to "be brought back into active use through sensitive restoration. You don't get early train stations remaining to the current day as they usually get replaced, so this is a rarity," it added.

The society said the site was in "visible decline" - Image © Thomas Ollivier
The director of the Victorian Society, James Hughes, said its "history of adaptation shows exactly the kind of sustainable reuse we should be championing today".
"What is needed now is a clear commitment to securing its future before further deterioration takes hold," he added.
Chair of CAMRA's pub heritage group Paul Ainsworth said the club played a "significant role in the town's evolution" and added it was "sad to see the club has been out of use since 2008. Its prolonged closure is a tragedy for the town and its heritage, and must serve its community once again. Our heritage pubs and clubs are an essential part of our social history, and must be recognised and protected for their incredible contribution to local communities and the wider beer and pub sector."
In August, the site was included in Westmorland and Furness Council's Marina Village development plans. Furness CAMRA pubs officer, Ann Summers-Glass, said the group "hoped the project would be successful and that any repurposing of the building included a community asset such as a pub or club". But the authority said, while the station was on the edge of the Marina Village boundary, it did not own the building and the site was not part of the plans.

The Victorian Society said the Strand station and club was a "focal point" for Barrow for more than a century - Image © Thomas Ollivier
A "neglected" Victorian former railway station and railwaymen's club should be reclaimed before it is lost, a group has claimed.
The Grade II-listed Strand Railway Station was Barrow-in-Furness's first railway station in 1863, evolving into a railwaymen's club in the early 1900s and serving as a social space until 2008.
The Victorian Society, which campaigns to preserve heritage, added it to a list of endangered buildings and said it stood "vacant and deteriorating" despite being a "focal point" for Barrow for more than a century.
Campaign for Real Ale's (CAMRA) Pub Heritage Group said its "prolonged closure is a tragedy for the town and its heritage, and must serve its community once again".
The Victorian Society said the Strand "stood at the centre of the transformation" of Barrow when it became a "major industrial and maritime centre, driven by the extraction of iron ore and the development of rail and dock infrastructure".
By 1856, 464,823 tonnes of iron ore were raised in Furness, of which 445,013 tonnes were transported via the Furness Railway and shipped from Barrow, the society said. Barrow's central station and a new through-route was opened in 1882, with the Strand being relegated to secondary uses. In the early 1900s, the building became a reading and library room for railway employees, with parts of the site being used as a drill hall.

The Victorian Society said the Strand Railway Station was "vacant and deteriorating" - Image © Thomas Ollivier
"It provided educational and social facilities and remained a focal point for the community for over a century," the Victorian Society said.
Its northern conservation adviser Thomas Ollivier explained: "For a long while the club was teetotal, reflecting the rise of temperance in working communities as part of non-conformist religious beliefs. Sadly, time was called at the club in the summer of 2008 after a 101-year history."
The society said the building was owned by an "absentee landlord and was in visible decline", calling for it to "be brought back into active use through sensitive restoration. You don't get early train stations remaining to the current day as they usually get replaced, so this is a rarity," it added.

The society said the site was in "visible decline" - Image © Thomas Ollivier
The director of the Victorian Society, James Hughes, said its "history of adaptation shows exactly the kind of sustainable reuse we should be championing today".
"What is needed now is a clear commitment to securing its future before further deterioration takes hold," he added.
Chair of CAMRA's pub heritage group Paul Ainsworth said the club played a "significant role in the town's evolution" and added it was "sad to see the club has been out of use since 2008. Its prolonged closure is a tragedy for the town and its heritage, and must serve its community once again. Our heritage pubs and clubs are an essential part of our social history, and must be recognised and protected for their incredible contribution to local communities and the wider beer and pub sector."
In August, the site was included in Westmorland and Furness Council's Marina Village development plans. Furness CAMRA pubs officer, Ann Summers-Glass, said the group "hoped the project would be successful and that any repurposing of the building included a community asset such as a pub or club". But the authority said, while the station was on the edge of the Marina Village boundary, it did not own the building and the site was not part of the plans.
| GWR website limited to one journey (single or return) per transaction In "Fare's Fair" [374560/31948/4] Posted by hoover50 at 17:04, 28th April 2026 | ![]() |
I usually buy my rail tickets from my local station but if I am making a longer journey with multiple split tickets and/or advance tickets, I use the GWR website.
However, it seems that following the GWR website update earlier this year, you are now limited to purchasing only one journey (single or return) per transaction. To book multiple journeys, you must complete them as separate purchases as the "add another journey" feature is no longer available.
This is a real nuisance, especially when trying to book a long journey using split tickets!

| Re: Lines I travelled on but are no longer available (GB Version) In "Railway History and related topics" [374559/31938/55] Posted by PrestburyRoad at 14:23, 28th April 2026 | ![]() |
I have happy memories of branch lines at the far ends of journeys from London for family holidays in the late 1950s-early 1960s.
- Waterloo direct to Woolacombe and Mortehoe (made famous by Flanders & Swann), and separately on the same holiday the big climb from Ilfracombe to Woolacombe and Mortehoe.
- Sidmouth to Exmouth changing at Tipton St Johns (I didn't suffer motion sickness on a train whereas a bus was more risky).
- Waterloo to Swanage.
- Ryde to Shanklin.
And, like many members, Blackfriars-Holborn Viaduct.
| Re: South Western Railways Waterloo - Bristol services axed In "South Western services" [374558/25368/42] Posted by Mark A at 14:19, 28th April 2026 | ![]() |
I used to catch the 2015 Pembroke Dock to london Waterloo service a few times and it was busy even though it arrived into Waterloo at 0415. Certainly a good idea for a open acess service.
Anecdote not data: it was yonks ago, but if it was an outbound one of these that passed through Bath Spa one late evening, I recall the sight of seats being around 70% occupied. Also, it's another era, but that Leeds overnight service using a long train of ancient compartment stock was very full indeed from Kings Cross and that was at the time when there may have been a sleeper too.
Mark
| Re: Lines I travelled on but are no longer available (GB Version) In "Railway History and related topics" [374557/31938/55] Posted by bradshaw at 13:37, 28th April 2026 | ![]() |
One that springs to mind was in 1965, travelling from Renfrew Airport on the late plane(£5 single!) for a weekend in Crewkerne.
Came to land at Heathrow in thick fog, approaching the runway the engines of the Vanguard fired up at full blast as the landing was aborted, 30 minutes later we landed at Manchester and were taken to Central Station where they had laid on a special train hauled by a Peak for my only journey over the Midland Main Line.
Another was my first railtour, again in 1965. This was run by the St Andrews University Railway Society and used J39s to haul the train over the Fife coast lines, ending at Dundee West on its last day before closure.
Then there were the A4s doing the Glasgow Aberdeens via the old road no longer in use.
| Re: Lines I travelled on but are no longer available (GB Version) In "Railway History and related topics" [374556/31938/55] Posted by PhilWakely at 13:22, 28th April 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
Back in 1971, I stayed with a spotter friend in Lincoln. My trips to and from Derby landed me at Lincoln St Marks.
| Re: South Western Railways Waterloo - Bristol services axed In "South Western services" [374555/25368/42] Posted by anthony215 at 12:32, 28th April 2026 | ![]() |
April 2026, and the through service Bradford** and Trowbridge to Waterloo gets a mention as it's a renewed aspiration. [Edit: the strapline beneath the photo isn't particularly useful]
Mark
https://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/26048069.boost-plans-build-three-wiltshire-railway-stations/
** That's Bradford-on-Avon, not Bradford, Yorkshire of course. Next, someone will propose the introduction of a train service between Waterloo and Manchester, which would be silly.***
*** Not silly, as that service, the butt of jokes from newspaper hacks, provided a whole shopping-basket-full of interregional travel opportunities that grew railway business and in the case of Bristol to Hereford, loaded embarrassingly well.
Mark
https://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/26048069.boost-plans-build-three-wiltshire-railway-stations/
** That's Bradford-on-Avon, not Bradford, Yorkshire of course. Next, someone will propose the introduction of a train service between Waterloo and Manchester, which would be silly.***
*** Not silly, as that service, the butt of jokes from newspaper hacks, provided a whole shopping-basket-full of interregional travel opportunities that grew railway business and in the case of Bristol to Hereford, loaded embarrassingly well.
It was well used especially as it offered a cheaper alternative to crosscountry via new street.
The south wales to Waterloo service were also very well used. I used to catch the 2015 Pembroke Dock to london Waterloo service a few times and it was busy even though it arrived into Waterloo at 0415. Certainly a good idea for a open acess service.
For those who aren't signed up to their newsletter, Network Rail recently sent out the following email:
Dear neighbour,
Rebuilding the Portishead to Bristol railway
I’m getting in touch to let you know about our latest stage of work to rebuild the
Portishead to Bristol railway.
As you may be aware, main construction has begun and we’re about to begin our next
stage of work along the disused line. We need to remove the old railway and prepare the
area for new track to be installed.
This will take place from Tuesday 5 May until August 2026. We’ll be working Monday to
Friday between 7.30am and 5.30pm.
The nature of our work means some additional noise and traffic is unavoidable. We’re
aware we’re working close to you and will try to minimise this as much as possible. We’re
sorry for any inconvenience.
I hope this information is helpful but if you have any questions, there are
several ways to contact us: call our dedicated 24-hour helpline on 03457 11
41 41, visit www.networkrail.co.uk/contactus or scan this QR code with your
phone for more information about living by the railway.
More information about the project can be found at networkrail.co.uk/portisheadline.
Kind Regards,
Niall Spencer
Senior sponsor, Network Rail
Rebuilding the Portishead to Bristol railway
I’m getting in touch to let you know about our latest stage of work to rebuild the
Portishead to Bristol railway.
As you may be aware, main construction has begun and we’re about to begin our next
stage of work along the disused line. We need to remove the old railway and prepare the
area for new track to be installed.
This will take place from Tuesday 5 May until August 2026. We’ll be working Monday to
Friday between 7.30am and 5.30pm.
The nature of our work means some additional noise and traffic is unavoidable. We’re
aware we’re working close to you and will try to minimise this as much as possible. We’re
sorry for any inconvenience.
I hope this information is helpful but if you have any questions, there are
several ways to contact us: call our dedicated 24-hour helpline on 03457 11
41 41, visit www.networkrail.co.uk/contactus or scan this QR code with your
phone for more information about living by the railway.
More information about the project can be found at networkrail.co.uk/portisheadline.
Kind Regards,
Niall Spencer
Senior sponsor, Network Rail
There is a map attached which shows the work area to be the stretch of line from Portishead Station site to Sheepway, where there is a track access compound which will be in use until Spring 2028.
The work is described as:
Disused line: We’ll be removing old
sections of track and tree stumps to create
space for the new railway line. We’ll put up
fencing, remove old track equipment and
reprofile culverts and ditches.
May 2026 to August 2026
Monday to Friday from 7.30am to 5.30pm.
sections of track and tree stumps to create
space for the new railway line. We’ll put up
fencing, remove old track equipment and
reprofile culverts and ditches.
May 2026 to August 2026
Monday to Friday from 7.30am to 5.30pm.
| Re: April 2026 - Melksham Public Transport news and new timetables In "TransWilts line" [374553/31905/18] Posted by matth1j at 11:25, 28th April 2026 | ![]() |
Thanks for the detailed info - I hadn't spotted that topic, and specifically your post with the proposed timings. Fingers crossed, again

| Re: April 2026 - Melksham Public Transport news and new timetables In "TransWilts line" [374552/31905/18] Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:59, 28th April 2026 Already liked by matth1j, Witham Bobby, Phil | ![]() |
From Oxford? In which case, a 5car IET
Ah yes - 07:00 Oxford - 08:20 Bristol direct via Swindon, Chippenham & Bath (no Keynsham).Currently just in the systems for that week and the following Monday. Alongside that is a return working at 09:08 from BRI-OXF, and a rather unusual 1Z52, 05:47 EXD-OXF that runs via Bristol.
That coincides with Severn Tunnel engineering works, so the bad news is that it might well only run for those six days to support that closure.
The good news is that when the OXF<>BRI service commences properly, that train will run daily, along with a 17:12 BRI-OXF return working.
See post #140 here: https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=28355.msg374552#new
It's also possible that an inital 4-hourly service on the OXF<>BRI corridor with operate if only one unit can be released from the delayed Class 175 introduction. In which case you would expect both of those services at 07:00 from Oxford and 17:12 from Bristol to feature with a service pattern from Oxford at 07:00/11:03/15:04 and 19:04 and from Bristol at 09:08/13:09/17:12 and 21:10.
Time will tell.

Telegraph article ('gifted' link expires after a month I think):
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/31b1a60b8dee440f
Spoiler:
1. Hope Valley, Derbyshire
2. Tywi Valley, Carmarthenshire
3. Brockenhurst, Hampshire
4. Loch Lomond, Argyll & Bute
5. The Chess Valley, Hertfordshire and Buckinghamshire
6. Eryri (Snowdonia), Gwynedd
7. Esk Valley, North Yorkshire
8. Deben Valley, Suffolk
9. Tamar Valley, Devon
10. The Malverns, Herefordshire and Worcestershire
| Re: Lines I travelled on but are no longer available (GB Version) In "Railway History and related topics" [374550/31938/55] Posted by Mark A at 10:04, 28th April 2026 | ![]() |
Winter '73, and on a late evening - or was it the overnight service that left Kings Cross for Leeds about 11pm, and was much diverted along the way, after other entertainment the train ran through Normanton having used that now abandoned line south of the station. The station at Normanton gave a very convincing impression of time-travel in that judging from the scene through the window we seemed to have slipped back to around 1952.
It may have been one of the journeys that took me over the Lincoln avoiding line but looking at a railway map I don't know if that would have been possible, but in any case, not a lot of time was spent on the usual route to Leeds. Thinking about it, another of these involved passing through Cambridge, through March and then via the March - Spalding line which I actually recall as being very steady progress and remarkebly dark night-time countryside through the window.
Mark
| Re: Lines I travelled on but are no longer available (GB Version) In "Railway History and related topics" [374549/31938/55] Posted by John D at 08:57, 28th April 2026 | ![]() |
Have been on Folkestone Harbour branch (including far platform on a rail tour)
Sifin branch in Derbyshire
Direct curve at Old Oak towards Kensington Olympia
East Putney to Wandsworth flyover line
Once got very early first train from Kingston to Waterloo which included Wimbledon staff halt in the destination list and uses interesting crossovers
| Re: Lines I travelled on but are no longer available (GB Version) In "Railway History and related topics" [374548/31938/55] Posted by grahame at 08:44, 28th April 2026 | ![]() |
Other comments on this thread remind me:
+ Dover Marine
+ Paddington to Greenford direct
Overall - hundreds and perhaps as many as a thousand journeys in and out of Holborn Viaduct, nothing else such regular / frequent use.
| Re: Lines I travelled on but are no longer available (GB Version) In "Railway History and related topics" [374547/31938/55] Posted by johnneyw at 22:49, 27th April 2026 | ![]() |
| Re: Lines I travelled on but are no longer available (GB Version) In "Railway History and related topics" [374546/31938/55] Posted by Oxonhutch at 22:20, 27th April 2026 | ![]() |
Shortest aside ever:-

The crossover from the Down to Up Relief at Twyford on a Paddington - Henley train.
| Re: Lines I travelled on but are no longer available (GB Version) In "Railway History and related topics" [374545/31938/55] Posted by Oxonhutch at 22:04, 27th April 2026 Already liked by 1st fan | ![]() |
Come to think of it, that last bit of the GWR line from Birmingham into Paddington at Old Oak Common as well. HSTs from Bath to London were sent to Oxford and then that way to Paddington. The train crawled the last few miles. That's now gone, hasn't it?
Indeed! That was my latest, but yet which I forgot - Friars Junction to Greenford, taken on one of the last Chiltern parliamentaries into Paddington.
Also now I think about it, I was on the curve round from Old Oak Common to North Pole Junction that the old Brighton Cross-countries used to take. Short but sweet.
Oh, and does the original connection between HS1 and the Southern third-rail network (when Waterloo was international) count?
| Re: Lines I travelled on but are no longer available (GB Version) In "Railway History and related topics" [374544/31938/55] Posted by Mark A at 21:52, 27th April 2026 Already liked by Oxonhutch | ![]() |
For me I think it's just Dover Marine, the Folkestone Harbour branch (on the UK portion of the Citalian Express no less) Holborn Viaduct, the Lincoln avoiding line, also Gunnislake (the station across the road, but perhaps that's wishful thinking). Bradford Exchange of course, and I recall zero publicity that it was to close - the replacement as first built was squalid. Also, Forster Square - the new station's just about off the site of the old, and for good measure shares with St Ives in that the new station's on the previous fish dock. Ah, and Ashton Gate from the harbour direction. Oh, and Gogarth, but it was a station and not an entire line. Ah, and Lincoln St Marks - which *was* on its own line.
Come to think of it, that last bit of the GWR line from Birmingham into Paddington at Old Oak Common as well. HSTs from Bath to London were sent to Oxford and then that way to Paddington. The train crawled the last few miles. That's now gone, hasn't it?
New lines include Tweedbank, and the Airdrie and Bathgate (though mostly asleep for that...)
Mark
| Glorious photo of Severn Beach line In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [374543/31946/21] Posted by Mark A at 21:35, 27th April 2026 Already liked by Noggin | ![]() |
| At least four killed and dozens injured in Indonesia train crash In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [374542/31945/52] Posted by ChrisB at 21:16, 27th April 2026 | ![]() |
From the BBC

At least four people were killed and dozens injured when two trains collided outside the Indonesian capital Jakarta on Monday.
State media report that a stationary commuter train was hit from behind by a long-distance commuter train arriving on the same track.
The final number of casualties is still to be confirmed and rescue efforts are under way to free a number of passengers trapped, officials said.
Footage shown on local media shows passengers on medical trolleys near Bekasi Timur Station, with other images showing rescuers trying to free people from the train wreckage.
Confirming the four deaths, a spokesperson for state-owned railway operator KAI, Anne Purba, said 38 other people had been taken to nearby hospitals.
"KAI expresses its deepest condolences and condolences to the victims and their bereaved families," Purba added.
The death toll could rise, according to the Deputy Speaker of the Indonesian House of Representatives, Sufmi Dasco Ahmad, who visited the site - which is approximately 25km (15.5 miles) from Jakarta.
Some people screamed "hysterically" as the trains collided, one passenger told the BBC's Indonesian service. Other eyewitnesses said they had seen "many victims" injured in the crash.
Jakarta Police Chief Insp Gen Asep Edi Suheri said six or seven people remained trapped inside the carriages.
Indonesia's public transport network in general has a high accident rate, due in part to ageing infrastructure and poor maintenance.
In January 2024, several people were killed and dozens more injured when two trains collided in a rice field in Cicalengka.
A video shot by drone showed the derailed carriages of the express train and the commuter train involved.
| Re: Lines I travelled on but are no longer available (GB Version) In "Railway History and related topics" [374541/31938/55] Posted by Oxonhutch at 21:08, 27th April 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
Two that come to mind on the same University railway society tour: Preston to the Red Scar sidings on the old Longridge Branch over the M6 - the site of the line is now a slender footbridge. Plus Poulton-le-Fylde to Burn Naze on the old Fleetwood Branch.
As a youngster on a family trip to western Scotland we travelled into the old station in Fort William, with its lovely three road starting signals and the track that ran out along the quay beyond the station. Now truncated about 3/4 mile back towards Mallaig Junction.
Even younger - the Douglas to Peel line on the Isle of Man. Can that count as GB?
| Re: Line description - Reading to Westbury In "London to Kennet Valley" [374540/31929/8] Posted by Mark A at 20:51, 27th April 2026 | ![]() |
Your photo, the juxtaposition of cows and iep is excellent.
Mark
| Re: Line description - Reading to Westbury In "London to Kennet Valley" [374539/31929/8] Posted by bobm at 20:29, 27th April 2026 Already liked by Mark A, Witham Bobby | ![]() |
Was the work to extend the siding at Bedwyn so that the EMUs could cover the Bedwyn service?
Yes!


| Re: Line description - Reading to Westbury In "London to Kennet Valley" [374538/31929/8] Posted by Mark A at 20:18, 27th April 2026 | ![]() |
Minority opinion: the Bedwyns should terminate at Marlborough.
Mark
I was fortunate to travel between Cheltenham and Stratford-on-Avon on a railtour in '75.
Of course part of that route now is occupied by the G&WSR.
| Re: Line description - Reading to Westbury In "London to Kennet Valley" [374536/31929/8] Posted by PhilWakely at 19:20, 27th April 2026 | ![]() |
Was the work to extend the siding at Bedwyn so that the EMUs could cover the Bedwyn service?
Yes!














