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Re: HS2 and Northern Powerhouse Rail (NPR) - Government proposals, alternative routes, discussion
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375775/5138/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:33, 4th June 2026
 
From the BBC:

Plaid Cymru demands talks with UK government to address 'unfair' HS2 rail funding

Plaid Cymru's new transport minister has asked for talks with the UK government to demand better rail funding for Wales.

Mark Hooper said successive UK governments had failed to address a "long-standing symbol of unfair rail funding" over High Speed 2, which is classed as an England and Wales project. Hooper said £445m announced for new stations last year "falls far short" and called for a "more ambitious" level of funding.

A Labour source said the UK government plans to "right the wrongs of historic underinvestment".

Plaid Cymru had promised at the May election to push for greater funding and powers from Westminster.

While a small number of lines in the south Wales valleys are maintained by the Welsh government, most rail infrastructure is the responsibility of the UK government.

Previous Welsh governments have long complained that Wales' rail network has suffered from under investment.

The large sums of money spent on HS2 ramped up those grievances. It was recently announced that the scheme could cost up to £102.7bn and may not open until 2039.

England-only schemes generate a consequential sum of money for Welsh budgets, but because HS2 was classed as an England and Wales project that has not happened, unlike Scotland and Northern Ireland.

The Westminster UK government has argued it is addressing underinvestment in rail, announcing £445m for new rail stations and other projects a year ago.

Before the election Sir Keir Starmer committed to a plan of work worth £14bn over 15 years, although the vast bulk of the money to build the proposed 43 stations has not been identified.

Only the £445m has been formally committed, with cash confirmed for seven stations.

In a letter to Alexander, Hooper wrote: "For Wales, HS2 is also a long-standing symbol of unfair rail funding that successive UK governments have failed to address."

While he welcomed the endorsement of the £14bn Transport for Wales rail plan, the deputy transport minister said the funding announced last year "falls far short of addressing the historic under-investment. I am keen that our officials work together on a far more ambitious pipeline of investment ahead of the next spending review," he added. The next spending review is expected in 2027.

Hooper said the Welsh government "wants to negotiate fairer rail funding for Wales", along with a pathway to full devolution.

Plaid wants control over Wales' railways to be fully in the hands of the Welsh government.

A Labour source said: "After avoiding the topic during the Senedd election, it is a positive step forward that Plaid have finally thrown their support behind the up to £14bn plan for rail agreed by the UK Labour government and the previous Welsh Labour government."

"Worth far more than what Welsh government would have received had HS2, or any other rail project been devolved, this investment will bring new stations and better services to people across Wales and right the wrongs of historic underinvestment by successive Tory governments in Westminster."


Re: Two South Western Ambulance workers arrested after six people die in Wiltshire
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [375774/30766/31]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:02, 4th June 2026
 
An update, from the BBC:

Ambulance worker rearrested after six people die

An ambulance worker released on bail in connection with the deaths of six adults has been arrested on suspicion of two further offences, police say.

The 35-year-old man, from west Wiltshire, is facing two further counts of wilful neglect by a care worker. He was previously arrested in September on suspicion of six counts of gross negligence manslaughter and four counts of ill-treatment or wilful neglect by a care worker. He remains on conditional bail.

A 60-year-old woman who was previously arrested in connection with the same investigation remains on conditional bail. Both individuals were previously employed by the South Western Ambulance Service NHS Foundation Trust (SWASFT).

The pair were arrested in connection with Operation Willow, a major investigation into the death of several adults within a healthcare setting in the Wiltshire area. It has been ongoing since 2023 following concerns raised to Wiltshire Police. They were immediately suspended from duty pending the outcome of the investigation and are no longer employed by the trust.

A spokesperson for the SWASFT said: "As soon as the trust became aware of any concerns, we immediately launched an internal investigation which resulted in a prompt police referral, and we continue to work closely with Wiltshire Police as part of their ongoing investigation. We would like to reassure communities that there is no on-going risk to patients. Please continue to call 999 in a life-threatening emergency. Due to the ongoing investigation, there will be no further comment at this stage."


Re: Prevention of reading and replying
In "News, Help and Assistance" [375773/32042/29]
Posted by grahame at 13:49, 4th June 2026
 

Hi Grahame
Please see below, as requested


Ah ... that is NOT the message I would have guessed.  Taking a look as I get a chance.  Maybe overnight but as I missed it and it's waited a while anyway, another 20 hours won't be an issue.

Re: GWR accused of disrupting Wales-England train links
In "Across the West" [375772/32097/26]
Posted by grahame at 13:24, 4th June 2026
 
Given that GWR will be back in public ownership later this year, it seems odd that they protested, other than under the instruction of someone senior at the DfT or GBR who didn't want to be seen directly interfering. So perhaps there's some kind of English/Welsh railway turf war going on?


That's what I thought too - odd for a zombie franchise to be rocking the boat in this way, unless as you say it's at the bidding of another organisation (..........and if senior people at GWR are hoping for a nice, taxpayer funded job going forwards with GBR, they are probably quite biddable to the right people just now!)

It is reported in the Bristol Post

Between Cardiff Central and Bristol Temple Meads they will call at Newport, Severn Tunnel Junction, Filton Abbey Wood, and Stapleton Road.

One train each way on weekdays and Saturday will additionally call at Bristol Parkway.

West of Cardiff the calling pattern will vary but will typically include Carmarthen, Pembrey and Burry Port, Llanelli, Gowerton, Swansea, Neath, Port Talbot Parkway, and Bridgend with most services originating from, or extending to, Fishguard Harbour or Milford Haven calling at all stations.

and in the Swansea Bay News on the Lumo proposals:

The route was first approved by the rail regulator in 2022 after a drawn-out battle with Great Western Railway, which operates its own south Wales to London Paddington services and had opposed the application. The original proposals were submitted by Grand Union Trains, which secured regulatory approval before selling its rights to the route to FirstGroup in 2024.

Lumo – FirstGroup’s open access train brand – will now operate the service, running five return journeys a day between Carmarthen and London Paddington. The service will call at Llanelli, Gowerton, Cardiff, Newport, Severn Tunnel Junction and Bristol Parkway.

Could it be that First's team at GWR also see an issue with more though services to England from west of Cardiff reducing income for First's team at Lumo ... on beyond 2026 ...

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [375771/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 13:03, 4th June 2026
 
13:14 Swindon to Westbury due 13:57
14:18 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58
16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:06


16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:06 will be cancelled.
This is due to a broken down train.

Re: GWR accused of disrupting Wales-England train links
In "Across the West" [375770/32097/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 12:33, 4th June 2026
 
Given that GWR will be back in public ownership later this year, it seems odd that they protested, other than under the instruction of someone senior at the DfT or GBR who didn't want to be seen directly interfering. So perhaps there's some kind of English/Welsh railway turf war going on?


That's what I thought too - odd for a zombie franchise to be rocking the boat in this way, unless as you say it's at the bidding of another organisation (..........and if senior people at GWR are hoping for a nice, taxpayer funded job going forwards with GBR, they are probably quite biddable to the right people just now!)

Re: Prevention of reading and replying
In "News, Help and Assistance" [375769/32042/29]
Posted by Phantom at 12:20, 4th June 2026
 
I have had an ongoing problem now, that appears on both my work laptops and my mobile phone - so different servers and web browsers.

When I open this site, I always click the "Update topics" and "Recent unread topics" hyperlinks to show me the updated posts etc.

But after I open the 4th / 5th page I get a holding warning page telling me I am unable to post or view anymore.
I then get this page on anything I view, and have  to leave the site for about an hour before I can try again.

I wasn't sure if this was something that can be looked into please?
It means that if I find a thread that I want to reply to, I get stopped by this contact page

Grateful for any assistance or advice

Oops - I missed picking that request up.  Please send me an image of the page you get - I THINK I know what the issue might be, but want to check that I address the right question.

Hi Grahame
Please see below, as requested


Re: GWR accused of disrupting Wales-England train links
In "Across the West" [375768/32097/26]
Posted by Noggin at 11:24, 4th June 2026
 
Given that GWR will be back in public ownership later this year, it seems odd that they protested, other than under the instruction of someone senior at the DfT or GBR who didn't want to be seen directly interfering. So perhaps there's some kind of English/Welsh railway turf war going on?

Of course the Welsh could have sweetened the deal/mixed up things by offering to rebuild and return services to Pilning station and contribute to electrification of the Filton Bank. Hard to object to that.

For their part, GWR could quietly whisper in the ears of AM's how direct trains will make it more convenient for those in West Wales to fly from Bristol instead of Cardiff. That might provoke a few reactions.

Re: Tree blocking line at Avoncliff
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [375767/31219/20]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 11:20, 4th June 2026
Already liked by Oxonhutch, Clan Line
 
Problems caused by leaf fall are starting early this year. 

Re: Uber train tickets promotion - % reduction
In "Fare's Fair" [375766/31130/4]
Posted by JohnM at 10:38, 4th June 2026
 
Uber One comes bundled with Monzo apparently, if anyone uses them. And I've been told the one month free trial period is 3 months if you pay by Barclaycard.

Re: GWR accused of disrupting Wales-England train links
In "Across the West" [375765/32097/26]
Posted by ChrisB at 09:01, 4th June 2026
 
First thought - open access license applications are supposed not to be primarily abstractive.  In other words to develop new markets.

In whose view? Yes to the DfT, not necessarily for the open access operator. There have been many requests whose obviously main reason was to extract from the franchisee.

   And those new markets in many cases can help the older markets too.  Not Open Access, but the re-instated services from Oxford to Swindon and the west will abstract traffic from Oxford to Didcot locals and from trains heading west that call at Didcot. 

Never a problem when they're both the same operator. GWR in this case, where all farebox goes back to the Treasury. Doesn't matter which farebox.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [375764/31359/18]
Posted by JohnM at 08:15, 4th June 2026
 
There are some minor changes to TransWilts timings all day, all week this week.  Some mainline services also affected. 
Arrived at the usual time, 6:27, so just a couple of extra minutes taking in the Melksham station scenery
...and not only that, the 6:46 Trowbridge-Bristol service was 4 carriages instead of the usual 2. Happy days
Same today - perhaps the 2 are related?

Never seen a 4 carriage train on this service before yesterday, previous max was 3.



Edit note: Quote marks fixed. CfN.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [375763/31359/18]
Posted by JohnM at 08:13, 4th June 2026
 
There are some minor changes to TransWilts timings all day, all week this week.  Some mainline services also affected. 
Arrived at the usual time, 6:27, so just a couple of extra minutes taking in the Melksham station scenery
...and not only that, the 6:46 Trowbridge-Bristol service was 4 carriages instead of the usual 2. Happy days
Same today - perhaps the 2 are related?

Re: Tree blocking line at Avoncliff
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [375762/31219/20]
Posted by John D at 07:30, 4th June 2026
 
Tree blocking line near Netley this morning

Re: Server slow ...
In "News, Help and Assistance" [375761/30293/29]
Posted by grahame at 07:10, 4th June 2026
Already liked by JohnM, GBM
 
There have been a number of traffic (or, rather cpu) spikes in the past few days which have left the Coffee Shop unreachable for a few minutes. I think I have identified the issue (actually in my Well House Consultants site which shares the server and applied a fix ... but only time will tell.

Re: Prevention of reading and replying
In "News, Help and Assistance" [375760/32042/29]
Posted by grahame at 07:06, 4th June 2026
Already liked by Phantom
 
I have had an ongoing problem now, that appears on both my work laptops and my mobile phone - so different servers and web browsers.

When I open this site, I always click the "Update topics" and "Recent unread topics" hyperlinks to show me the updated posts etc.

But after I open the 4th / 5th page I get a holding warning page telling me I am unable to post or view anymore.
I then get this page on anything I view, and have  to leave the site for about an hour before I can try again.

I wasn't sure if this was something that can be looked into please?
It means that if I find a thread that I want to reply to, I get stopped by this contact page

Grateful for any assistance or advice

Oops - I missed picking that request up.  Please send me an image of the page you get - I THINK I know what the issue might be, but want to check that I address the right question.

Re: GWR accused of disrupting Wales-England train links
In "Across the West" [375758/32097/26]
Posted by grahame at 06:04, 4th June 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
The Department for Transport has always instructed franchised train operators to object to new services, or service extensions, by non-franchised operators - because they (in theory) reduce the amount of money flowing back to DfT. Remember way way back when Virgin's objections, at the behest of DfT, stopped Wrexham & Shropshire calling at Birmingham New Street.

Sounds about right as to what happens.  But the theory is a crude one to be always applied.

First thought - open access license applications are supposed not to be primarily abstractive.  In other words to develop new markets.   And those new markets in many cases can help the older markets too.  Not Open Access, but the re-instated services from Oxford to Swindon and the west will abstract traffic from Oxford to Didcot locals and from trains heading west that call at Didcot.   But then many more people should make the journey from Oxford to Swindon and beyond, attracted by the new service - perhaps to the extent that many more people that before (rather than less) will do the "Didcot Dance" rather that waiting for the direct train which this year is only every 120 minutes.

I haven't data to say which way that balance goes in the case of Bristol to west of Cardiff, nor on the Oxford to Swindon example ... but I can tell you with some certainty that an extra service (whoever and however it's run) combed in with an every-2-hours Swindon to Westbury service run by GWR or GBR would (under the right conditions) increase the passenger numbers on the GWR/GBR service.     That may sound perverse, but analysis suggests that annual passenger journeys at Melksham (for example) would rise from around 70,000 to around 300,000 - in other words, twice the number of trains and each would be twice as busy..  I do need to qualify that; the service would truely need to be hourly (not two trains following each other closely then a long gap for the rest of the two hours), and the ticket system would need to be such that passengers could routinely get on the next train no matter who was running it (integrated fares).

Re: Uber train tickets promotion - % reduction
In "Fare's Fair" [375757/31130/4]
Posted by bobm at 21:05, 3rd June 2026
Already liked by Western Pathfinder, JohnM
 
Will have to try that.   I currently have Uber One to save on my weekly plaice and chips!

Re: Uber train tickets promotion - % reduction
In "Fare's Fair" [375756/31130/4]
Posted by JohnM at 21:01, 3rd June 2026
 
Just in case anyone else hadn't noticed - the Uber promotion where you got 5% back on train tickets has recently been reduced to 3% Still worth having though.
However... I've just discovered that if you join Uber One, you get 10% of your ticket cost back in Uber credits (plus a few other benefits). Uber One is £4.99pm after the first free month.

So even with my relatively low usage of 3 trips per week at £10.25 each I make it a saving of about £12pm, £7 more than the subscription.

Anyone tried this? I'm giving it a go...

Re: GWR accused of disrupting Wales-England train links
In "Across the West" [375753/32097/26]
Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 16:14, 3rd June 2026
 
The Department for Transport has always instructed franchised train operators to object to new services, or service extensions, by non-franchised operators - because they (in theory) reduce the amount of money flowing back to DfT. Remember way way back when Virgin's objections, at the behest of DfT, stopped Wrexham & Shropshire calling at Birmingham New Street.

What's different here is that the other operator is the Welsh Government, in the form of Transport for Wales. But it's the same principle there's always been.

Re: IET wi-fi upgrades - pilot scheme on West of England trains
In "Across the West" [375752/31108/26]
Posted by stuving at 16:01, 3rd June 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
This thread, plus thoughts of the long wave transmission from Droitwich finishing at the the end of this month, combined to remind me of some pioneering experiments with telephone communication from a train - this was in 1911 and involved the Stratford on Avon and Midland Junction Railway no less.

Mark


https://www.ourwarwickshire.org.uk/content/article/im-train-wireless-messages-trains-1911-12


The next year his "Railophone" company was demonstrating (on the same line) using his radio link to control trains - CBTC, no less!

Re: IET wi-fi upgrades - pilot scheme on West of England trains
In "Across the West" [375751/31108/26]
Posted by Mark A at 15:20, 3rd June 2026
 
This thread, plus thoughts of the long wave transmission from Droitwich finishing at the the end of this month, combined to remind me of some pioneering experiments with telephone communication from a train - this was in 1911 and involved the Stratford on Avon and Midland Junction Railway no less.

Mark


https://www.ourwarwickshire.org.uk/content/article/im-train-wireless-messages-trains-1911-12

 
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