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Re: Greetings from Milan, where it's too hot to eat out.
In "Introductions and chat" [376503/32175/1]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:19, 26th June 2026
 
Hmm.  I would tend to disagree, grahame, regarding 'helicopter parent'.

The anonymous lad is 23, he's not travelled solo before, and is travelling a fair distance across different countries in Europe, with various language considerations, etc.

My own daughter, age 28, is not an expert on travelling solo within the UK: on one occasion, I had to retrieve her from Didcot Parkway, as she'd managed to get there instead of a (slightly diverted, due to engineering work) journey from Cardiff to Nailsea.

CfN. 

Re: Grand Central Waterloo-Bristol open access
In "London to Swindon and Bristol" [376502/32154/10]
Posted by grahame at 21:05, 26th June 2026
 
Off the top of my head - am I correct in saying that this proposed service will actually provide a quicker WAT to SAL service than that provided by the steam hauled ACE - up to 1964 !  Is this what they call progress ?   

Provisional timetable is 76-78 minutes from Waterloo

About 8-10 minutes faster than Waterloo-Exeter trains with 159s

I would suggest that's because it's almost non-stop, not calling at Basingstoke or Woking - just Clapham Junction.  I also noted brisk timings from Bristol to Bath, sandwiched between Portsmouth Harbour and London trains; no stops showing at Keynsham or Oldfield Park and indeed a problem if they tried.   The service pattern may hint at the main market they are after.

Greetings from Milan, where it's too hot to eat out.
In "Introductions and chat" [376501/32175/1]
Posted by grahame at 20:58, 26th June 2026
 
Greetings from Milan, where it's so hot that no-one is sitting at the outside tables - they're all inside at the restaurants with AC which are busy.  Those without AC are empty.   My train left Brindisi on time but was about 25 minutes down by the time it completed over 1000 kms to Milan. I can't identify any one delay - not that I would recognise unusually slow running in any particular area as it's the first time I've done the journey. 

I have chickened out, with the Kentucky fried version back in my room where I can reduce clothing for comfort and plan for tomorrow. Clockface hourly trains without reservations and I have the luxury that give me of being able to be flexible.   There *is* a TV in the room - there has been everywhere - but I have not used them; rather a quick check with general sites including the BBC to see what's happening in the world, some social media, some email, and the Coffee Shop.  And it was on the social media I can across this gem from an anonymous poster.

I've got a quick question. My 23-year-old son will be traveling solo this fall to Albania. He has already been to Europe twice, however but I’m just looking for any tips, suggestions, things to be wary of as this will be his first time traveling internationally completely solo. I am a seasoned European traveler myself so I don’t need general suggestions as much as information to be aware of specific to Albania.  He will be renting a car as well so any suggestions about reputable car rental agencies so as not to have him get screwed over with bogus charges and such.

I found myself - without knowing any specific circumstances - thinking "helicopter parent".  Surely the lad could and should do his own research, and if not perhaps he should not be travelling solo ...

Re: Grand Central Waterloo-Bristol open access
In "London to Swindon and Bristol" [376500/32154/10]
Posted by John D at 20:18, 26th June 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Off the top of my head - am I correct in saying that this proposed service will actually provide a quicker WAT to SAL service than that provided by the steam hauled ACE - up to 1964 !  Is this what they call progress ?   

Provisional timetable is 76-78 minutes from Waterloo

About 8-10 minutes faster than Waterloo-Exeter trains with 159s

Don't have a 1964 timetable, but have copy of one of the last Southern Railway ones, and Salisbury was about 2 hours by the fastest trains to beyond Exeter

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376499/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 19:24, 26th June 2026
 
20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06

20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06 will be terminated at Gloucester.
It will no longer call at Cheltenham Spa.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376498/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 19:14, 26th June 2026
 
18:37 Westbury to Swindon due 19:21
20:12 Swindon to Westbury due 20:56
21:16 Westbury to Swindon due 21:58
22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12

22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train

Re: Grand Central Waterloo-Bristol open access
In "London to Swindon and Bristol" [376497/32154/10]
Posted by Clan Line at 18:34, 26th June 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Off the top of my head - am I correct in saying that this proposed service will actually provide a quicker WAT to SAL service than that provided by the steam hauled ACE - up to 1964 !  Is this what they call progress ?   

Re: Squirrels - red, grey or albino, on the railways or otherwise - ongoing discussion
In "The Lighter Side" [376496/5560/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:26, 26th June 2026
 
A video item, from the BBC:

Squirrels tackle Wimbledon challenge in Hitchin back garden


It's a video piece, so you'll need to click on the BBC's link, at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/ckg01kz8gnzo

Less than a minute, but it's pure fun. 

Re: The same digits but in a different order
In "The Lighter Side" [376495/32173/30]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 17:35, 26th June 2026
Already liked by Clan Line, Oxonhutch, Chris from Nailsea, chuffed
 
The thread title suggests some sort of Morecombe & Wise sketch.

Not necessarily.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads unusual activity
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [376494/32174/47]
Posted by Mark A at 17:22, 26th June 2026
 
The class 47... one of the types of loco that, for the brief time that that station, the line and the locos coexisted, passed through Nottingham Victoria on long distance express duties.

Mark

Re: "Cancellations on all routes" 24-26 June 2026
In "Across the West" [376493/32162/26]
Posted by grahame at 17:19, 26th June 2026
 
Cancellations to services between Par and Newquay
Due to severe weather between Par and Newquay fewer trains are able to run.

The temperature in Newquay is 18 degrees

Cancellations to services between Truro and Falmouth Docks
Due to severe weather between Truro and Falmouth Docks fewer trains are able to run on some lines.

We are running an amended service during the severe heat event in line with the Met Office red weather warning.

The temperature in Truro is 18 degrees and expected to rise to 22-23 degrees today. There is no weather warning in place.


As written in a Friends post on social media a couple of hours ago:

Lecce - Brindisi - Bari - Barletta - Foggia - Termoli - Pescara - Ancona - Pesaro - Rimini - Bologna - Modena - Milano.  The train I am on is calling at this catalogue of Italian cities - not that I have time to see any of them as we stop for a few seconds only. It is, perhaps, a typical long distancce express, with only a sprinking of passengers on board when I joined it at Brindisi, but now as we approach Ancona it's "every seat taken".  I knew that would be the case, as it's a "reservations only" train and the reserved seat plan had meagre pickings when I booked 48 hours ago. Staying on all the way to Milan and thinking of interesting comparisons to Cross Country trains in the UK.   We avoid Rome, just like the UK's Cross Country services avoid London.

Lecce - Ancona - 596 kms; Ancona - Bologna - another 202 kms; Bologna - Milano - another 215 kms; Total 1013 kms - virtually the same as London to Ullapool (port for the Outer Hebrides, well beyond Inverness).   Haven't been to Milan for - err - 21 days doubt it has changed.  Seriously, a city in which I have never left the station and even this time it's just overnight and a couple of hundred yards from the station.

Hot, late, but running here in Italy - here is the latest



Re: The same digits but in a different order
In "The Lighter Side" [376492/32173/30]
Posted by JayMac at 17:00, 26th June 2026
 
The thread title suggests some sort of Morecombe & Wise sketch.

Re: The same digits but in a different order
In "The Lighter Side" [376491/32173/30]
Posted by grahame at 16:23, 26th June 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Graham's train, with a link to a map. Bologna in an hour, and once day he'll take a ride on the Porrettana. Or perhaps he already has...

Mark

https://treniamo.it/en/train/8824-lecce-milano-centrale

That is a link to the train I am on.  Yes - Italian trains tend to set off on time and loose time along the way.  Due in at 19:10 and I was very careful what I wrote - schedules 19:10, expected perhaps 19:30 to 19:40.   My hotel won't be going anywhere, so delay really does not matter to me.

Re: The same digits but in a different order
In "The Lighter Side" [376490/32173/30]
Posted by Mark A at 15:42, 26th June 2026
 
Graham's train, with a link to a map. Bologna in an hour, and once day he'll take a ride on the Porrettana. Or perhaps he already has...

Mark

https://treniamo.it/en/train/8824-lecce-milano-centrale

Bristol Temple Meads unusual activity
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [376489/32174/47]
Posted by JohnM at 13:26, 26th June 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
After going through the Temple Meads barriers on the way home yesterday ( https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=32162.msg376479#msg376479 ) I could see what looked like heritage coaches on the platform opposite, but couldn't see what was pulling them due to a non-heritage service blocking that end of the view on the platform I was standing on. So I moved down the platform, hoping to perhaps see a nice steam engine. But instead:

Not being an expert in this sort of thing I was a bit underwhelmed. But apparently I shouldn't have been:
This particular movement attracted significant attention from rail enthusiasts because it was operated by Locomotive Services Limited (LSL) using highly unusual traction for the region: a pair of vintage Class 20 locomotives (20118 and 20132) leading the train, with Class 47 (47712) attached to the rear. The stock was being returned following a charter railtour to Shrewsbury the previous day.
(I only saw the class 47 when the train pulled out.) So now I know

Re: "Cancellations on all routes" 24-26 June 2026
In "Across the West" [376488/32162/26]
Posted by eightonedee at 13:03, 26th June 2026
 
That wouldn't happen here I'd guess because operators would rather use the space to cram in more seats.

If only.... During the latter part of my commuting career, seats were removed from 2-car class 165s for some cycle/luggage storage that looks unsuitable for either function, and seats were also removed from the middle coaches of class 166s for additional wheelchair space - not a problem to provide it, by why not replace it with tip-up seating that can be used when (as on the majority of journeys) there are no wheelchair users on board. I think that these are DfT/ORR requirements, as is the continued use of 5-across seating on our relatively restricted sized trains, compared to the rest of Europe.

Re: Grand Central Waterloo-Bristol open access
In "London to Swindon and Bristol" [376487/32154/10]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 12:12, 26th June 2026
Already liked by Mark A, Western Pathfinder
 
Class 769s seemed to be thw rumoured  rolling stock.

Lord, God!  No!!!

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376486/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 11:57, 26th June 2026
 
And after all that, if you had caught the 07:21 and gone via Reading you would have arrived in Southampton Central just over 20 minutes late at 10:05 (but got delay repay).

Sorta point-of-view.  If you had caught the 06:29 as planned, you would have planned an arrival into Southampton at 08:10 - so you (and your employer or a person meeting you) might consider that 115 minutes late

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376485/31359/18]
Posted by bobm at 11:21, 26th June 2026
 
And after all that, if you had caught the 07:21 and gone via Reading you would have arrived in Southampton Central just over 20 minutes late at 10:05 (but got delay repay).

Re: Hotel etiquette
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [376484/32164/31]
Posted by PrestburyRoad at 09:26, 26th June 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
Regarding the little bottles of soap, shampoo etc: if I've started a bottle I'll take part-empty bottle with me to use up at home, because I assume that the hotel won't reuse it.  Whereas if I haven't started it I'll leave it for the hotel to provide for the next guest.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376483/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 08:19, 26th June 2026
 
05:11 Gloucester to Southampton Central due 08:10
 
05:11 Gloucester to Southampton Central due 08:10 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

JourneyCheck is struggling with 250 cancellations and part cancellations this morning and I suspect that the bloke or blokessse who feed it are overworked.  There are regular users of this train though, and it would be a politeness for the people or systems that tell them their train is cancelled to tell them the alternative.   This IS used as a get-to-work train by people to Bristol and Southampton.

Searching on GWR, the best they offer is a train that gets people to Southampton and hour and a half later, at a much higher price (cheeky when they cancelled the train).  If I were personally travelling, I would take a look at the bus option to Trowbridge which would certainly be cheaper and probably get me to Southampton earlier than the 07:21 via Reading!



Yep - 06:50 bus from Broughton Road to Trowbridge Trinity Church (you'll note it takes 30 minutes by bus and 10 minutes by train!) and then the 07:53 train from Trowbridge to Southampton Central, due 09:03.   £3 bus fare plus £30.10 which is a darned site cheaper than the £106.20 GWR will have you pay if you don't know, and gets you there still late - but 40 minutes after the train they offer you having cancelled the 06:29.

Another good reason to have a knowledgable person able to offer help at the station!

Re: "Cancellations on all routes" 24-26 June 2026
In "Across the West" [376482/32162/26]
Posted by REVUpminster at 08:19, 26th June 2026
 
No trains to Newquay, Looe, one train for Okehampton and Falmouth, short forms at Paignton with no xcountry there since Tuesday and no arrival from Paddington today.

GWR have done a good job of scaring the passengers off. They not worried if they don't come back. Where will the management be in December?

Re: Hotel etiquette
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [376481/32164/31]
Posted by LiskeardRich at 08:00, 26th June 2026
 
Infoman- most televisions are on a timer these days.
Both TVs in my house turn off after a period of not touching the remote.

Carpets- I’ve stayed in a few Ibis Budgets over the last 18 months across Europe. They don’t tend to have carpets, with a heavy duty Lino type flooring. It feels cleaner to me.

I’ve also used a selection of independent hotels recently. I’ve found the beds to be of variable quality, and in Prague I had a terrible night sleep, which made me grumpier than usual. It skewed my opinion of Prague because I was tired. Combination of noise, poor sound deadening in a noisy location.
I stayed in a beautiful place in Zakopane, amazing sleep. Very quiet. Ran by a senior lady and her daughter. Zakopane is my favourite place I’ve visited this year. Is my opinion of a place biased by how well i slept?
Most of my sleep quality has been a result of surrounding noise. Other guests, external noises.

Until the last 18 months I solely booked the big purple branded chain as I knew what I’d get. I’ve pushed myself out of my comfort zone and stayed in a wide selection of independents and other chains in the last 18 months. I notice peoples etiquette to the small independent different to in a chain.

Re: "Cancellations on all routes" 24-26 June 2026
In "Across the West" [376480/32162/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:06, 26th June 2026
 
Cancellations to services between Par and Newquay
Due to severe weather between Par and Newquay fewer trains are able to run.

The temperature in Newquay is 18 degrees

Cancellations to services between Truro and Falmouth Docks
Due to severe weather between Truro and Falmouth Docks fewer trains are able to run on some lines.

We are running an amended service during the severe heat event in line with the Met Office red weather warning.

The temperature in Truro is 18 degrees and expected to rise to 22-23 degrees today. There is no weather warning in place.

Re: "Cancellations on all routes" 24-26 June 2026
In "Across the West" [376479/32162/26]
Posted by JohnM at 06:42, 26th June 2026
 
Bristol Temple Meads yesterday evening:

 

And the 17:00 Paddington service shown as on time (1.5 mins before departure) which I was intending to catch was subsequently delayed, and we were advised to board the 17:12 Oxford service. I was only planning on getting to Chippenham to catch the 18:00 to Melksham, but that was also cancelled, so I got off at Bath and caught the 272 Melksham bus. The bus had to wait for a minute in Box because it was ahead of schedule

The Paddington train eventually departed 19 mins late, not far behind the Oxford service.

Re: The same digits but in a different order
In "The Lighter Side" [376478/32173/30]
Posted by grahame at 06:40, 26th June 2026
 
While I am at patterns .... Countdown.  "Can I have seven vowels and three consonants please Rachel"



Rather the opposite of Llwyngwril - which is perhaps the only station with GWR in its name

The same digits but in a different order
In "The Lighter Side" [376477/32173/30]
Posted by grahame at 06:29, 26th June 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Today, I'm on the 10:19 from Brindisi and scheduled 19:10 into Milan.   Quite rare for start and end times to be all the same digits but in a different order.   Is this something that happens on any of your journeys?  Or is it something you wouldn't notice even if it did?


Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376476/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 05:29, 26th June 2026
 
05:11 Gloucester to Southampton Central due 08:10
 
05:11 Gloucester to Southampton Central due 08:10 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

"More automated logging systems than usual needing repair at the same time"

  - Indeed. But you may have noticed I filed the report with a note on the alternatives we are using to help readers (customers for our data) keep track.

JourneyCheck is struggling with 250 cancellations and part cancellations this morning and I suspect that the bloke or blokessse who feed it are overworked.  There are regular users of this train though, and it would be a politeness for the people or systems that tell them their train is cancelled to tell them the alternative.   This IS used as a get-to-work train by people to Bristol and Southampton.

Searching on GWR, the best they offer is a train that gets people to Southampton and hour and a half later, at a much higher price (cheeky when they cancelled the train).  If I were personally travelling, I would take a look at the bus option to Trowbridge which would certainly be cheaper and probably get me to Southampton earlier than the 07:21 via Reading!


Re: Hotel etiquette
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [376475/32164/31]
Posted by grahame at 05:06, 26th June 2026
 
[snip]

The theme here is that, rather than my collecting various items from the room, I'm unfortunately more likely to leave with less items than those with which I arrived.  Rather than use the hotel's shower gel, for example, I prefer to pack a small bottle of my own preferred brand and use that.  However, on several occasions, I have omitted to repack my own bottles from the bathroom when I leave.

Hopefully, they will have been appreciated by the next guest. 

I do see the smiley face - but in practise it's a big "no, no" for a hotelier to leave items in the room from one guest to the next.  Even the water in the kettle is cleared out was part of our cleaning procedure.   

Occasionally I stay in hotels that have failed on this - for example I did not touch what must have been a previous guest's salami in the fridge in quite the most run down hotel I have stayed in on my current trip in Clermond Ferrand.    And there was a little water in the kettle here in Brindisi, which I emptied, then rinsed the kettle through before putting in new water from the tap. 

We (at Well House Manor) only knowingly failed to reset a room to "as new" condition on one occasion.  We were running a series of courses for a well known national broadcaster,  and one of our students asked "was [name] in my room last week?".   Oops, yes, and he should not have been able to tell.  Turns out that the clock / radio when switched on started on the BBC's Welsh language service rather than a default; those clock radios also needed to be checked to ensure that there was no daily alarm enabled to wake the new guest at an unwanted hour.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376474/31359/18]
Posted by JohnM at 04:52, 26th June 2026
 
05:11 Gloucester to Southampton cancelled because of more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time (again).

 
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