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Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377719/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 19:00, 2nd August 2026
 
Congestion

Hmm...

The only thing I can see that might be termed "congestion" is that trains between Paddington and South Wales are running via Chippenham today (and are also a bit off booked times due to yesterday's fire west of Newport).


Perhaps "congestion" was passengers at Bath Spa and they needed an extra train from there to Bristol?

Re: West Wilts Rail User Group - 16th September 2026
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [377718/32313/34]
Posted by grahame at 18:22, 2nd August 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
It should be a very interesting evening.  I have met Peter a number of times - both during and after his time with the Department for Transport; he was always very professional, and since his DfT days my respect for him has grown further.

Re: Lineside fire 01/08/2026
In "London to South Wales" [377717/32309/11]
Posted by Trowres at 17:39, 2nd August 2026
 
Yes, the GWR info on Journeycheck was clear and a fair representation of the plan being followed.

TfW have abandoned Journeycheck; their website gave the following on Sunday afternoon (2/8/26):
Update: Incident due to a fire next to the track between Newport (South Wales) (NWP) and Cardiff Central (CDF) until 20:00.

Due to a fire next to the track between Newport (South Wales) (NWP) and Cardiff Central (CDF):

Services will be delayed by up to 60 minutes.

Services will be cancelled in both directions between Cardiff Central (CDF) and Newport (South Wales) (NWP).

We expect the incident to last until 20:00 and disruption to services is expected from 14:00 on 01/08/2026 until 00:00 on 03/08/2026.

What's Happened?

Following a lineside fire in the Marshfield area between Cardiff Central and Newport.
Fewer services are able to run, but residual delays of around 60 minutes are to be expected.
We apologise for the disruption caused to your journey.

Your ticket can be used on the following alternative routes to help you complete your journey, with the Train Operating Companies listed below at no extra cost:

    Great Western Railway by any reasonable route
    CrossCountry between Cardiff Central and Cheltenham Spa

These arrangements are in place on services until the end of the day.

If you decide to travel from a different station due to this disruption and need to return to that station later, you will also be able to use your existing ticket to do this at no extra cost.

You can use the following local bus services to help you complete your journey, at no extra cost:
X24 / 23 provided by Stagecoach South Wales between Newport and Pontypool via Cwmbran.
Route 30 provided by Cardiff Bus between Cardiff and Newport.
Route X30 provided by Newport Bus between Newport and Cardiff.
You may use your ticket on the following alternative dates at no extra cost:
    02/08/2026
    03/08/2026

Meanwhile the local e-rag has provided the following advice from TfW:
In a series of updates this morning, August 2, Transport for Wales Rail said the incident “is expected to last until further notice and disruption to services is expected until further notice”, confirming that trains between Cardiff Central (CDF) and Newport (NWP) are cancelled in both directions and that fewer services are able to run across the wider network.

(my highlighting).


Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377716/31359/18]
Posted by Trowres at 17:18, 2nd August 2026
 
Congestion

Hmm...

The stock for the 1404 Frome-Swindon (1M11) comes from Westbury as an ECS (5M11), departing Westbury sidings at 1325.
Today, it appears not to have run.

Instead, there was a Very-short-term-planning (VST) passenger service from Westbury to Bristol TM, scheduled to depart from Westbury at 1330. Coincidence that its reporting code was 1Z11?

It returned from Bristol to Westbury as 1Z12, arriving a little earlier than the scheduled 1523 at platform 2.

This suggests it was in the right place to form the rump end to Frome of the otherwise cancelled 1544 Swindon-Frome.

The only thing I can see that might be termed "congestion" is that trains between Paddington and South Wales are running via Chippenham today (and are also a bit off booked times due to yesterday's fire west of Newport).



West Midlands boaters race against clock as drained canals close - August 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377715/32315/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:11, 2nd August 2026
 
From the BBC:

Boaters race against clock as drained canals close


Repair work is under way at a lock on the Hatton flight near Warwick - Image © Nici Griffin

Boaters are racing against the clock to beat canal closures as waterways run dry due to extreme heat.

Some channels connecting large parts of the Midlands and the North of England have lost several inches of water, leaving narrowboats stuck and those already on the canals facing being stranded miles from home for weeks on end.

Campaigner George Seward said he was getting up at 05:00 BST and cruising until dark to get his narrowboat through the Atherstone flight of locks, after a sudden closure was announced.  "They're unlikely to be open again for many weeks and I want to make sure I get through that flight so I can get my boat safely home," he said.

The locks on the Coventry Canal in Warwickshire are due to shut on Tuesday morning, with last entry on Monday afternoon, as the Canal and River Trust (CRT) tries to conserve dwindling supplies.

For Seward, who is Midlands regional chair of the Association of Waterways Cruising Clubs, the deadline is the difference between getting his boat home to Hinckley in Leicestershire and being potentially marooned for an unspecified period.

(BBC article continues)


Re: West Wilts Rail User Group - 16th September 2026
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [377714/32313/34]
Posted by ChrisB at 16:42, 2nd August 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
Responsible for the order, not necessarily being a responsible civil servant!

Re: West Wilts Rail User Group - 16th September 2026
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [377713/32313/34]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:34, 2nd August 2026
 
Hmmm. 

At the risk of possibly causing offence to Peter West: I amended grahame's original post, where he had referred to Peter West as 'the franchise manger at the DfT' - and is there any such entity as a 'responsible civil servant'?

I apologize for any offence I may cause by posting this, my personal opinion, not an official view from the Coffee Shop forum.

CfN. 

Re: The People's Emergency - film, free, 27.5.2026
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [377712/32079/34]
Posted by ChrisB at 16:27, 2nd August 2026
 
More left than Burnham's lot.....sorry, they're not tropes, all true.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377711/31359/18]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:23, 2nd August 2026
Already liked by rogerw
 
You have no idea what congestion there can be, at Melksham station. I''ve seen it - five cars in the parking area there, all at the same time! 

Re: West Wilts Rail User Group - 16th September 2026
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [377710/32313/34]
Posted by ChrisB at 16:20, 2nd August 2026
 
ooooohhh....wsh I could be there.

I've always wanted to know why he ordered IETs that are so not suited to the Wests railways.....and he  was the responsible civil servant

Re: Cannington Viaduct visit weekend
In "Railway History and related topics" [377709/32301/55]
Posted by chuffed at 16:07, 2nd August 2026
 
The calender CFN keps in the Nookies and Trannies.....

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377708/31359/18]
Posted by GBM at 16:01, 2nd August 2026
 
14:04 Frome to Swindon due 14:57
14:04 Frome to Swindon due 14:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to congestion.

15:44 Swindon to Frome due 16:38
15:44 Swindon to Frome due 16:38 will be started from Westbury.
It will no longer call at Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham and Trowbridge.
This is due to congestion.
I'd love to know what GWR's definition of 'congestion' is.
So many questions around one word, which to me, doesn't say anything!

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377707/31359/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 14:13, 2nd August 2026
 
14:04 Frome to Swindon due 14:57
14:04 Frome to Swindon due 14:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to congestion.

15:44 Swindon to Frome due 16:38
15:44 Swindon to Frome due 16:38 will be started from Westbury.
It will no longer call at Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham and Trowbridge.
This is due to congestion.

Re: Diesel trains at Woking to soon be replaced by electrics?
In "South Western services" [377706/32312/42]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 13:09, 2nd August 2026
 
Hmm.

That's a different answer to a different question. 

Re: Diesel trains at Woking to soon be replaced by electrics?
In "South Western services" [377705/32312/42]
Posted by stuving at 12:47, 2nd August 2026
 
The replies on Facebook are quite fun to read, but so far he doesn't seem to have explained what he has based his bizarre claim on.

I found it interesting that the minister (?) replying on behalf of the government did not point out that his claim was wrong, but pointed out that electric trains will bring efficiencies ... which (he hoped) would include the minister's consituency.   I find myself wondering if GBR|SW in their timetable recast is considering terminating diesel trains from west of Basingstoke at Basingstoke, with connections from there onwards into London?

I thought the PUSS's answer sounded like the question was based on a government statement of some kind. I also wondered when that exchange took place - no date I could see.

I actually came from commons question to the SoS for transport, on June 11th. This section is headlined in Hansard as about transport decarbonisation, but I'm not sure if it was planned as such or just emerged. The three questions in that section start with:
Amanda Martin
(Portsmouth North) (Lab)

10. What steps she is taking to help decarbonise the transport sector. (900360)

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Transport
(Keir Mather)

Decarbonising transport is vital for our energy security and to make the network fit for the future. We are turbocharging the roll-out of electric vehicles, overhauling public transport, supporting low carbon fuel uptake in aviation, and funding technology innovation for maritime through the multimillion-pound UK Shipping Office for Reducing Emissions research programme.

After that rather woolly (but still overstated) answer and her follow-up question about Portsmouth port, Will Forster jumps in with his. So it was seen at the time, I'm sure, as based on the published decarbonisation plans, which as we all know are largely a deadline-free zone. For the record:
Mr Will Forster
(Woking) (LD)

Can the Minister assure me that when the diesel trains that operate on the South Western Railway network are replaced with electric trains to decarbonise the network, there will be no reduction in service for my commuting constituents in Woking?

Keir Mather

We believe that the benefits of having electric rolling stock for our train services actually allow us to improve efficiency on the railway, and I hope that those improvements can be realised for the hon. Gentleman’s constituents.

Indonesia - Five dead, 41 missing, after ferry catches fire - 2 August 2026
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [377704/32314/52]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 12:28, 2nd August 2026
 
From the BBC:

Five dead, 41 missing, after Indonesia ferry catches fire


KMP Mutiara Sentosa 2 ferry with thick plumes of smoke billowing from behind - Image © Basarnas

Five people have been found dead and 41 are missing after an Indonesian ferry carrying at least 250 people caught fire while at sea, officials say.

The captain of the ship reported the fire - off Madura island - as the vessel sailed from the country's second-largest city, Surabaya in East Java, to Makassar in South Sulawesi, according to Basarnas, the National Search and Rescue Agency.

Footage played by local Indonesian news outlet iNews shows large numbers of people in life jackets on what appears to be a lifeboat.

Other clips show people climbing down from the ferry that has flames and plumes of smoke coming from the top of the vessel.

Basarnas posted a video to its TikTok, with a statement saying at 08:24 (02:24 GMT) the Surabaya Search and Rescue office received information that passenger ship KMP Mutiara Sentosa 2 was on fire.

"Based on information from the shipping company, the fire occurred at around 06:00-07:00 (00:00-01:00 GMT)."

Later, Basarnas said it got confirmation the ferry "was almost entirely engulfed in flames" as "passengers held on in the ship's bridge and bow while awaiting rescue".

In some of the footage, can be seen jumping into the sea, with crowds of people in life jackets gathering and lifebuoys being thrown to some before they are carried into a rescue ship.

(BBC article continues, and is being updated)


Re: An example that perhaps Bristol and Bath should follow?
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [377703/32311/21]
Posted by grahame at 11:36, 2nd August 2026
 
We don't even need to look that far. The 398s being introduced in South Wales are based on the same tram-train platform and some of the extensions being done and planned in terms of street running are great examples for showing what you could do.

Our speaker at the November 25th 2026  meeting of the West Wiltshire Rail User group will be Nathan Sealey, Head of Practice - Systems Engineering and BIM  |  Consulting Rail at Amey, who has had rather a lot  to do with the South Wales Metro.  We may hear some things looking ahead to the Bath and Wiltshire metro too.

Meeting from 19:00 (for networking and coffee) with Nathan talking from 19:30. Paid up members of WWRUG - it's included. Guests welcome for £2 on the night (cash only).   At the Bethesda Church Hall, near to Trowbridge station, with a finish time such that it works out well for trains in all sorts of directions even before we have metro frequency!

West Wilts Rail User Group - 16th September 2026
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [377702/32313/34]
Posted by grahame at 11:25, 2nd August 2026
 
Our speaker at WWRUG on 16th September will be Peter West, who was the franchise manager at the DfT for many years.  He is now a member of the board at the Severnside Community Rail Partnership.

WWRUG meets at the Bethesda Church Hall in Trowbridge - open from 19:00 for networking and coffees, with the speaker at 19:30.   It's only 100 yards or so from Trowbridge station and we finish in time for "carriages' - for you to connect with trains home around 21:15.    Meeting costs are include in West Wiltshire Membership fees (which are a bargain) but guests are welcome too at £2 a head.



Edit note: I have corrected one of grahame's trademark typos here, for clarity. CfN.     

Re: Network Rail press release: passengers and luggage
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377701/32295/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 10:52, 2nd August 2026
 
Years ago, for reasons so obscure that I won't bore you with them here, I conveyed a folding table from Nailsea & Backwell to Melksham by train.

The dimensions of that table exceeded many surfboards, and it weighed considerably more, but I was able (just) to carry it from home to NLS, then from MKM to grahame's. The train journeys in between were no problem at all: I simply propped the table against the bulkhead in the cycle area, without inconveniencing any cycle rack users, obviously.

CfN. 

Re: Diesel trains at Woking to soon be replaced by electrics?
In "South Western services" [377700/32312/42]
Posted by grahame at 10:49, 2nd August 2026
 
The replies on Facebook are quite fun to read, but so far he doesn't seem to have explained what he has based his bizarre claim on.

I found it interesting that the minister (?) replying on behalf of the government did not point out that his claim was wrong, but pointed out that electric trains will bring efficiencies ... which (he hoped) would include the minister's consituency.   I find myself wondering if GBR|SW in their timetable recast is considering terminating diesel trains from west of Basingstoke at Basingstoke, with connections from there onwards into London?

Re: Cannington Viaduct visit weekend
In "Railway History and related topics" [377699/32301/55]
Posted by GBM at 10:38, 2nd August 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, Oxonhutch, chuffed
 
Network AwayDay was the ticket name....

I seem to recall one of the TV comedy shows of the time suggesting a spicier railway product named a 'HaveItAwayDay' ticket.
I have now added this topic to the Coffee Shop forum's calendar. 

Which one? 
(Not a serious question)

Re: Diesel trains at Woking to soon be replaced by electrics?
In "South Western services" [377698/32312/42]
Posted by Ralph Ayres at 10:15, 2nd August 2026
 
The replies on Facebook are quite fun to read, but so far he doesn't seem to have explained what he has based his bizarre claim on.

Re: An example that perhaps Bristol and Bath should follow?
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [377697/32311/21]
Posted by WelshBluebird at 10:13, 2nd August 2026
 
We don't even need to look that far. The 398s being introduced in South Wales are based on the same tram-train platform and some of the extensions being done and planned in terms of street running are great examples for showing what you could do.

Diesel trains at Woking to soon be replaced by electrics?
In "South Western services" [377696/32312/42]
Posted by grahame at 09:43, 2nd August 2026
 
From Will Foster, MP for Woking

South Western Railway’s diesel trains will soon be replaced by electric trains.

With cancellations and delays already a big issue on the network serving #Woking, I’ve asked the Government to ensure that the rollout of new trains don’t add to the problem.

Has he heard something we have not?

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2539177199864931

Re: Network Rail press release: passengers and luggage
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377695/32295/51]
Posted by grahame at 09:32, 2nd August 2026
 
I do like the cheery GWR message on X/Twitter for those travelling to Boardmasters in Newquay next weekend, which concludes by sternly reminding those considering going by train that "surfboards are not permitted on long-distance services"

The Famous Five evidently shouldn't plan on going surfing by train! 

There is an argument that says that trains are MASS transit and should provided for the overwhelming majority of people.  On that basis, they can do without the few who wish to take skateboards, bicycles. mobility aids, prams and those with big packs or suitcases.   This is not an argument I would support.

Re: Okehampton
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377694/18334/24]
Posted by REVUpminster at 09:03, 2nd August 2026
 
Saturday. If you a passenger with an hourly service you need it to run. Okehampton went two hourly after the 1724hr so probably crew shortage.
Barnstaple after the 1335 departed at 1356 and the next train was 1639. Shoppers to Exeter on a Saturday will think twice before going by train or parents letting their children use the train.

It's when I read posts like that I really want to acknowledge and totally agree with you - but somehow using the "like" button conveys too positive a response.

Reliability is key to any public transport service.   Occasional failures for good external cause can be forgiven, but routine failure to provide the contracted and advertised service drives customers away. 

St Thomas had minimal effect on Okehampton and Barnstaple services. Some trains delayed getting through St David's due to platform occupancy.

Re: Okehampton
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377693/18334/24]
Posted by RailCornwall at 08:39, 2nd August 2026
 
I've noted on some of the videos that were recorded that the platform information signs were still indicating no services on opening day.

Re: Lineside fire 01/08/2026
In "London to South Wales" [377692/32309/11]
Posted by grahame at 08:19, 2nd August 2026
 
Looking to see what's happening today ... updated on Journey Check at 04:52 on 2.8.2026 ... however most of the text reads like it did last night and says "Due to the severity of the fire, this has affected signalling and the overhead electricity power. We request that you do not travel from either Bristol Parkway or Bristol Temple Meads to Newport and Cardiff central for the rest of today as we cannot provide a rail service." and I would not like to hazard a guess as to whether the line will be open in any form today or not.  No doubt the next update (in two hours) or one after that will help tell us what's happening.

Far better info now ...

There has been a fire near the railway in the Marshfield area between Newport and Cardiff Central, which has affected signalling systems and the overhead electric power supply.
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What are we doing about it?
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Fewer trains are able to run between Newport and Cardiff Central, in both directions, and we will be running a reduced service.
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Trains between London Paddington and Swansea, via Cardiff Central, will run, in both directions.
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Trains between Cardiff Central and Portsmouth Harbour will start or finish their journey at Newport, depending on the direction of travel.
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Trains between Cardiff Central and Taunton/Exeter St David's will start or finish their journey at Bristol Temple Meads, depending on the direction of travel.
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Please check your intended journey on the National Rail Enquiries real-time journey planner which has been updated with the trains we are able to run. Your journey is likely to take longer and may involve more changes of train than usual.

And I note that the raft of bus alternative options is much reduced, probably reflecting those that actually run on a Sunday.

Re: Network Rail press release: passengers and luggage
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377691/32295/51]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:09, 2nd August 2026
Already liked by Mark A, GBM
 
I do like the cheery GWR message on X/Twitter for those travelling to Boardmasters in Newquay next weekend, which concludes by sternly reminding those considering going by train that "surfboards are not permitted on long-distance services"

The Famous Five evidently shouldn't plan on going surfing by train! 

An example that perhaps Bristol and Bath should follow?
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [377690/32311/21]
Posted by grahame at 07:58, 2nd August 2026
 
Yesterday ... my first visit to Chemnitz, travelling through on the hourly train from Aue in Saxony that turned itself into a tram at Technopark, switched from diesel to electric, and combed in with other services to give a more frequent mass transit through the heart of the city and to the main railway station where I left it to continue out on the other side. It's not unique - I have arrived in Saabrucken on a tram that started on a train. And in the UK, we have a similar system in Sheffield though I have not travelled on it.   

The idea seems sensible and appears to work well - so why has it not seen wider adoption, and might it work in places like Bristol and Bath, Exeter and Plymouth, Southampton and Swindon?




















 
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