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Re: Lineside fire 01/08/2026
In "London to South Wales" [377679/32309/11]
Posted by WelshBluebird at 23:55, 1st August 2026
 
However, as I type, the 2C97, 22:47 Cardiff-Bristol, has halted between Pengam and Wentloog and is signalled to go back towards Cardiff.

Not exactly ideal given its the last train and especially on a Saturday is usually very very busy (I dont understand why there isn't s later service like there is on other nights). Feel sorry for the passengers and whoever has to deal with the situation at Cardiff!

Re: Lineside fire 01/08/2026
In "London to South Wales" [377678/32309/11]
Posted by Trowres at 23:33, 1st August 2026
 
Two separate incidents are involved, although information is sparse.

There was a fire at the Star Trading Estate in the early hours of the morning that caused cancellation of several early morning services, but seems to have been sorted out  by 07:00 (the fire itself looked rather severe: see https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdrvkp87e1xo.

The second fire was described on Journeycheck as "in the Marshfield area" but may have been a bit closer to Newport, but definitely west of Ebbw Junction. Last train through appeared to be a Cardiff-Exeter IET at about 14:15.

After that, nearly all train services were cancelled. The number turning back at Newport was small and the Ebbw Vale services also disappeared.

Interestingly, though, a small number of trains did make it between Newport and Cardiff using the relief line. There were Newport-Cardiff ad-hoc services running as 1O01 ... 1O06 and a Penzance-Cardiff 2U32 (1645 off Penzance) that reached Cardiff at 22:53; 37 minutes late.

However, as I type, the 2C97, 22:47 Cardiff-Bristol, has halted between Pengam and Wentloog and is signalled to go back towards Cardiff.

Re: Okehampton
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377677/18334/24]
Posted by johnneyw at 22:53, 1st August 2026
 
Here's the Beeb's news coverage of today's opening.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gdzyyv7g8o

Re: [otd] 8th August (1898) - opening of the Waterloo and City line
In "Transport for London" [377676/32307/46]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:05, 1st August 2026
 
I rather think grahame was asking for contributions ready to start a new topic on 8 August.  I started a new topic on the Wantage Tramway today, so grahame could add it to 'OTD', but that was done somewhat at the last minute.



Re: [otd] 8th August (1898) - opening of the Waterloo and City line
In "Transport for London" [377675/32307/46]
Posted by ChrisB at 19:40, 1st August 2026
 
It's only 01.08 today - you're a week ahead of yourself?

Re: Off peak ticket, travel involves a connection, peak time services
In "Fare's Fair" [377674/32304/4]
Posted by ChrisB at 19:35, 1st August 2026
 
Bearing in mind that you need to produce evidence of your Eurostar ticket to obtain that - hence only being able to purchase in person

Re: Lineside fire 01/08/2026
In "London to South Wales" [377673/32309/11]
Posted by bobm at 19:33, 1st August 2026
 
Journeycheck is reporting the fire is at Marshfield which is west of Newport. 

Re: East West Rail Timetable
In "Chiltern Railways services" [377672/29004/44]
Posted by ChrisB at 18:50, 1st August 2026
 
I'm informed that these additional staff are NOT safety-critical (I thought they were?) and Bletchley-MKC is not DOO compliant, which I did know.

Lineside fire 01/08/2026
In "London to South Wales" [377671/32309/11]
Posted by Mark A at 18:14, 1st August 2026
 

The fire's shut the line between Parkway and Newport. Does anyone know if this is the same incident as the fire north of Caerleon (some way up the line to Cwmbran rather than on the South Wales main line)?

Mark

https://bsky.app/profile/gwr.com/post/3mrzthegooo2c

Re: Off peak ticket, travel involves a connection, peak time services
In "Fare's Fair" [377670/32304/4]
Posted by grahame at 16:02, 1st August 2026
 
Onto Eurostar, you need to purchase a ticket to London Terminals CV, I think only from ticket offices or on-train if no ticket office available.

https://www.railfuture.org.uk/CIV-tickets
A CIV ticket is a ticket sold under the CIV conditions (Convention Internationale pour le transport des Voyageurs) for cross border rail travel. In the case of London, this means that, in the outward direction, if the UK train arrives into London late, Eurostar must honour the ticket and place the passenger on the next available Eurostar train. In the homeward direction, should the Eurostar arrive into London late and the connection onto the booked onward UK train is missed, the UK operator must accept the ticket on their next service. CIV tickets also include the underground connection to St Pancras where needed. They are normally slightly more expensive than the advance fare to / from London at the time of booking, but significantly cheaper than an open ticket.

On price - I have seen them substantially lower cost than the equivalent any time tickets, and indeed best value if your Eurostar times are such that you need to travel to or from London in the peak.

Re: Person struck by train 1st August 2026 Devon
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377669/32302/24]
Posted by bobm at 15:56, 1st August 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
As a consequence no doubt.

Won't be a pleasant experience......

10:02 London Paddington to Penzance due 15:09
Facilities on the 10:02 London Paddington to Penzance due 15:09.
Service full and standing.
Neither will this
12:03 London Paddington to Penzance due 17:08
12:03 London Paddington to Penzance due 17:08 will be starting late from London Paddington.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.

Looks like it was formed by 800306, a nine car, in the end.

[otd] 8th August (1898) - opening of the Waterloo and City line
In "Transport for London" [377667/32307/46]
Posted by grahame at 15:33, 1st August 2026
 
Affectionetley known as "The Drain", the Waterloo and City line was opened 8.8.1898 by the London and South Western Railway to link their Waterloo terminus to the city at Bank.



We've mentioned the line in the past, but don't seem to have a dedicated thread.  Would anyone like to add a brief history of the line?

Re: Cannington Viaduct visit weekend
In "Railway History and related topics" [377666/32301/55]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:21, 1st August 2026
Already liked by grahame
 
I have now added this topic to the Coffee Shop forum's calendar. 

Re: Cannington Viaduct visit weekend
In "Railway History and related topics" [377665/32301/55]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 15:14, 1st August 2026
 
Network AwayDay was the ticket name....

I seem to recall one of the TV comedy shows of the time suggesting a spicier railway product named a 'HaveItAwayDay' ticket.

Looking and learning - but where?
In "The Lighter Side" [377664/32306/30]
Posted by grahame at 15:11, 1st August 2026
 
Fascinating day looking and learning - but where am I?    This reminded me of the signal box in the old train shed at Temple Meads ... and also had me wondering if it was something to do with Tenby



As a bit of a clue - it's NOT Bristol Temple Meads, nor is in Tenby in spite of what the sign says, nor is it Preston

Re: Cannington Viaduct visit weekend
In "Railway History and related topics" [377663/32301/55]
Posted by ChrisB at 15:10, 1st August 2026
 
From Facebook

Uplyme Village Noticeboard  ·
For The Love of a Railway
  · 24 July at 15:25  ·
A unique heritage weekend is coming your way!
For the first time in more than 60 years, the public will have the chance to experience Cannington Viaduct, the last surviving major structure of the magical Axminster to Lyme Regis Railway, which served our communities from 1903 until its closure in 1965.
Revisit the Viaduct will take place on Saturday 19 and Sunday 20 September, bringing together local history and the glorious countryside on the Devon / Dorset border in a very special celebration.
The weekend will include:
• Guided, stewarded walks from Uplyme to the viaduct.
• The opportunity to stand on the viaduct deck for the first time since the railway closed.
• For those who prefer not to make the walk, a heritage hub at Uplyme Village Hall with displays, refreshments and the premiere of a new short film telling the story of the viaduct and the branch line.
Admission will be FREE, but because numbers on the viaduct must be carefully managed, advance booking will be essential.

Our online box office opens on 1 August, when full details and tickets will become available.
This exciting community project has been made possible by a team that includes For the Love of a Railway, National Highways Historical Railways Estate, Axminster Town Council, Uplyme Parish Council, Devon County Council and South Western Railway. Its success very much depends upon volunteers and on access kindly given by Shapwick Grange Farm.

Please save the dates – and help us spread the word by sharing this post with friends, family and anyone who remembers, loves or simply wants to discover the wonderful Axminster to Lyme Regis Railway.
More info: https://fortheloveofarailway.co.uk/viaduct

Re: Network Rail press release: passengers and luggage
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377662/32295/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 14:58, 1st August 2026
 
It was Black Dog Halt, rather than Black Hound: see also https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=21932.msg338471#msg338471 


Re: Cannington Viaduct visit weekend
In "Railway History and related topics" [377661/32301/55]
Posted by ChrisB at 14:57, 1st August 2026
 
Network AwayDay was the ticket name....

Re: Off peak ticket, travel involves a connection, peak time services
In "Fare's Fair" [377660/32304/4]
Posted by ChrisB at 14:44, 1st August 2026
 
It applies from Eurostar, mind.

Onto Eurostar, you need to purchase a ticket to London Terminals CV, I think only from ticket offices or on-train if no ticket office available.

Also, I *think* it does apply if your bus or tube is cancelled, certainly n London.

Re: 14 coach IET
In "Across the West" [377659/32299/26]
Posted by GBM at 14:38, 1st August 2026
 
I was caught out a few days ago by RTT showing a 5 car 175 on the Newquay branch!

Re: Person struck by train 1st August 2026 Devon
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377658/32302/24]
Posted by GBM at 14:28, 1st August 2026
 
11:35 London Paddington to Newquay due 16:45
Facilities on the 11:35 London Paddington to Newquay due 16:45.
This is due to the emergency services dealing with an incident earlier today.
Catering is not available.

Re: Person struck by train 1st August 2026 Devon
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377657/32302/24]
Posted by GBM at 14:26, 1st August 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
As a consequence no doubt.

Won't be a pleasant experience......

10:02 London Paddington to Penzance due 15:09
Facilities on the 10:02 London Paddington to Penzance due 15:09.
Service full and standing.
Neither will this
12:03 London Paddington to Penzance due 17:08
12:03 London Paddington to Penzance due 17:08 will be starting late from London Paddington.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.

Re: Buses in Bristol will no longer stop in Broadmead shopping area - 30 Aug 2026
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [377656/32284/21]
Posted by WelshBluebird at 14:19, 1st August 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
At the risk of sounding facetious or cynical, may I suggest that the buses are being cleared out of the way, to allow for Helen and Andy's mass transit system ie trams to be  installed ?

I'd wager that the complete? removal or buses from Union Street and Horsefair is mainly to ease the redevelopment of Broadmead and The Galleries - particularly the old Debenhams building.

As for trams, extrapolating from the WECA strategy document, they are thinking of a three line tram system - Airport to TM, TM to Cribbs/Brabazon/Parkway and TM to Keynsham/Bath via A4. Mind you, I can't really see how they can do any of that other than with a lot of mixed road running, but that's another matter. 

On that basis, TM to Stokes Croft is Victoria Street, Wine Street, Union Street, Haymarket and I would also lay money on the Bear Pit being filled in with HM Gov cash as Sheffield did when they built their system. So an almost completely pedestrianised Broadmead. 

There are two elements to the changes.

The Horsefair is being pedestrianised. That means anything that currently uses it (most of the buses headed east basically) needs to move to using Fairfax Street instead.

Separately Union Street is being made into a bus only two way street with much better access to and from the Haymarket. These works again require services thst currently use it to be moved until the works are done.

As it happens yes the longer term plan for Union Street is for it to form part of a "rapid transit" cross city route. But from what I've read that just sounds like more Metrobus style services rather than trams sadly.

And in terms of The Galleries work I must expect that the work when it eventually happens will impact Fairfax Street so I suspect some of the routes will need to temporarily move to that reopened two way Union Street.

Re: Buses in Bristol will no longer stop in Broadmead shopping area - 30 Aug 2026
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [377655/32284/21]
Posted by WelshBluebird at 14:14, 1st August 2026
 
Map with changes in routes and stops at https://travelwest.info/bus/broadmead-bus-changes/

This is pretty radical stuff - I really get the point that busses need to move more quickly around the city centre, but having the inbound and outbound routes diverge so far seems really user-unfriendly - particularly for tourists and occasional bus users. This is particularly the case with the number 1 and 2.

A lot of these routes have been doing that for years though, with the inbound services going via Bond Street and the outbound services snaking through Broadmead. E.g. the 45.

If people who use the other routes are able to handle it then so can people who use the 1 and 2. Especially as the longer term plans are to bring back at the the number 2 to Union Street when the works are done.

Re: Person struck by train 1st August 2026 Devon
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377654/32302/24]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 13:21, 1st August 2026
 
As a consequence no doubt.

Won't be a pleasant experience......

10:02 London Paddington to Penzance due 15:09
Facilities on the 10:02 London Paddington to Penzance due 15:09.
Service full and standing.

OTD - On This Day, 1 August (1925) - Wantage Tramway closed to passengers
In "Railway History and related topics" [377653/32305/55]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 13:06, 1st August 2026
 
From Wikipedia:

The Wantage Tramway Company was a two-mile tramway that carried passengers and freight between the Oxfordshire town of Wantage and Wantage Road Station on the Great Western Main Line in England.

Formed in 1873 to link Wantage Road station with its terminus at Mill Street, Wantage the line was built parallel to what was then the Besselsleigh Turnpike, and now the A338.

The tramway closed to passengers in 1925 and to goods traffic in 1945.

Re: Network Rail press release: passengers and luggage
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377652/32295/51]
Posted by grahame at 12:48, 1st August 2026
 
**snip**
... but then grahame woke up. 


Ah, to the reverie I'd just added a through platform at Chippenham and started Graham's bucolic train at Calne.

Mark

Makes sense. With calls at Black Hound and Stanley Bridge.

Re: Off peak ticket, travel involves a connection, peak time services
In "Fare's Fair" [377651/32304/4]
Posted by Mark A at 12:47, 1st August 2026
 
Thanks, both. That's all sensible.

Mark

Re: Network Rail press release: passengers and luggage
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377650/32295/51]
Posted by Mark A at 12:45, 1st August 2026
 
**snip**
... but then grahame woke up. 


Ah, to the reverie I'd just added a through platform at Chippenham and started Graham's bucolic train at Calne.

Mark

 
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