| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by grahame at 14:43, 21st May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Someone was asking how these would show up on our disruption map ... yep, they do ...
13:09 Bristol Temple Meads to Oxford due 14:29
13:09 Bristol Temple Meads to Oxford due 14:29 is being delayed between Bath Spa and Swindon and is now expected to be 17 minutes late.
This is due to a late running freight train
13:09 Bristol Temple Meads to Oxford due 14:29 is being delayed between Bath Spa and Swindon and is now expected to be 17 minutes late.
This is due to a late running freight train
13:03 Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads due 14:15
13:03 Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads due 14:15 is being delayed between Swindon and Chippenham and is now expected to be 32 minutes late.
This is due to a late running freight train.
13:03 Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads due 14:15 is being delayed between Swindon and Chippenham and is now expected to be 32 minutes late.
This is due to a late running freight train.
Very odd in effecting trains in both directions - shunt movement at Royal Wootton Bassett?

| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by IndustryInsider at 06:53, 19th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
It was an excellent opening day.
All train ran, none of them at any intermediate stop were more than 8 minutes late, and the biggest delay at destination was 4 minutes, with the majority arriving on time or early.
I’m sure there will be much worse days to come, but even our resident ‘negative Nancy’ had to rather scrape the barrel to find something adverse to post.

| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:49, 18th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Thank you for joining us on the Coffee Shop forum, rowan roaming, and for your first post.
Please do continue to read our topics, and take hope from them.
Best wishes, Chris from Nailsea.

| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by rowan roaming at 22:35, 18th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Hello. I am someone who has been commuting from Oxford to Bristol twice a week for the past 13 years. I have got to know the route and Didcot waiting room well over the years. I am sole carer of a little girl and the frustrations and failures of the Didcot Dance have left me in tears on Didcot platform countless times, begging train managers to try to hold the train on platform 5, and, once, resorting to taking a taxi back to Oxford. I also became friends with a nice GWR worker called Spencer a few years back, who suggested that he thought one day the direct trains would come back. Another time, I was given Mark Hopwood's Didcot address by a sympathetic train manager, though I never did find the time to write. One of the most frustrating things has been to see how daft the timetables are (either the long wait on the cold platform at Didcot or the ludicrous and dangerous run from one platform to the other) and to experience this country's obsession with London when, on several occasions, those of us due to come off the train from Bristol at Didcot were told it would not be stopping there, presumably lest it inconvenience London commuters.
The expertise and insider info of this forum has kept my hope alive. So thank you! The irony being, however, that the week the direct train arrived I do not in fact need to travel in. I am wondering whether to travel in one day anyway, just for the sheer novelty of it.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:11, 18th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The people of Chippenham greeting the arrival of the inaugural service to Oxford with wild enthusiasm this morning! (from elsewhere on social media)

| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by bobm at 09:09, 18th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |



Among those at Swindon to join the first Oxford bound train were Swindon South MP and Secretary of State for Transport Heidi Alexander, Mark Hopwood MD of GWR and Will Stone Swindon North MP.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:36, 17th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Why is Sunday running not included in these services? Demand to travel between major tourist centres (Oxford, Bath and Bristol) is likely to be at least as high on a Sunday as any other day.
It wasn't in the Section 22A application to the (ORR) either for the 2-hourly service from tomorrow, or the hourly service from next May.The two most likely reasons:
1) Availability of paths on a Sunday due to engineering works.
2) Availability of staff on a Sunday due to historic reasons.
Agreed it would be nice, and appropriate, to provide a Sunday service as well. Perhaps when Sunday's are in the working week?

'When' the civil servants at GBR actually grapple / deal with that issue. While they are working on an occasional Sunday, perhaps?
By the way:
2) Availability of staff on a Sunday due to historic reasons.
Barbeques, mostly, with credit to member Taplow Green for that source.

| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by TaplowGreen at 17:25, 17th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Why is Sunday running not included in these services? Demand to travel between major tourist centres (Oxford, Bath and Bristol) is likely to be at least as high on a Sunday as any other day.
It wasn't in the Section 22A application to the (ORR) either for the 2-hourly service from tomorrow, or the hourly service from next May.
The two most likely reasons:
1) Availability of paths on a Sunday due to engineering works.
2) Availability of staff on a Sunday due to historic reasons.
Agreed it would be nice, and appropriate, to provide a Sunday service as well. Perhaps when Sunday's are in the working week?
"When" doing the heavy lifting there!

| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:35, 17th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Why is Sunday running not included in these services? Demand to travel between major tourist centres (Oxford, Bath and Bristol) is likely to be at least as high on a Sunday as any other day.
It wasn't in the Section 22A application to the (ORR) either for the 2-hourly service from tomorrow, or the hourly service from next May.
The two most likely reasons:
1) Availability of paths on a Sunday due to engineering works.
2) Availability of staff on a Sunday due to historic reasons.
Agreed it would be nice, and appropriate, to provide a Sunday service as well. Perhaps when Sunday's are in the working week?
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by froome at 10:14, 17th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Why is Sunday running not included in these services? Demand to travel between major tourist centres (Oxford, Bath and Bristol) is likely to be at least as high on a Sunday as any other day.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by grahame at 05:35, 17th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Mailing list from heads of GWR and Network Rail area (signed Mark and Marcus) including reference to the introductory lower cost fares some members have noted
We promised to keep you updated on changes to our timetable, and we're very pleased to confirm that from Monday 17 May, we'll be running direct services from Bristol to Oxford every two hours. This follows initial safety measures being put in place along the route ahead of services starting, and further safety improvements in the months to come, as discussed with our regulator, the Office of Rail and Road (ORR).
This builds on our trial of running a limited number of these services on Saturdays. The new services will run Monday-Saturday. Online journey planners have been updated, and tickets are available for purchase including special introductory fares from £10 between Bath Spa to Oxford and £6 from Swindon to Oxford.
The services will call at Bristol Temple Meads, Bath Spa, Chippenham, Swindon, and Oxford – providing direct links between these communities and Oxford for the first time in more than 20 years.
We know this is something customers and partners have been campaigning for over recent years, and we’re very grateful to those who have supported our case to make this happen, following upgrades that Network Rail has completed in the last few years providing much needed additional rail capacity at and around Oxford station.
The economic and social benefits are clear, and we're confident that these new services demonstrate the value of rail in driving economic growth, environmental benefits, and creating education and employment opportunities which previously were not possible – as well as directly linking two of the key leisure markets in the UK.
Thank you again for your support and do let us know of any questions you may have.
This builds on our trial of running a limited number of these services on Saturdays. The new services will run Monday-Saturday. Online journey planners have been updated, and tickets are available for purchase including special introductory fares from £10 between Bath Spa to Oxford and £6 from Swindon to Oxford.
The services will call at Bristol Temple Meads, Bath Spa, Chippenham, Swindon, and Oxford – providing direct links between these communities and Oxford for the first time in more than 20 years.
We know this is something customers and partners have been campaigning for over recent years, and we’re very grateful to those who have supported our case to make this happen, following upgrades that Network Rail has completed in the last few years providing much needed additional rail capacity at and around Oxford station.
The economic and social benefits are clear, and we're confident that these new services demonstrate the value of rail in driving economic growth, environmental benefits, and creating education and employment opportunities which previously were not possible – as well as directly linking two of the key leisure markets in the UK.
Thank you again for your support and do let us know of any questions you may have.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by grahame at 05:31, 17th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Indeed, outside the peak, fares drop to levels that to which many more people can relate. Also, for the moment there's ample availability of advance fares and at useful times of day too (the availability granted at the discretion of the rail company of course).
You’re not wrong there.
“Advance single Wednesday coming on the 07:29 from Bath to Oxford, sir? That’ll be a tenner please!”
“Back home on the 17:04 or 19:00? Yep, you’ve guessed it…another tenner. Or for an extra £15 you can travel back in 1st Class if you like?”
Fares are "all over the place" when you head east from Swindon, and adding extra service is a wonderful thing (four cheers!) but does not sort out the quirks, overcharges, occasional bargains, and rule changes. It's an example of where Network South East meets premium priced high speed long distance fares and the regional fares of the Bristol and Bath (Western Gateway) economic area.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by IndustryInsider at 21:00, 16th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Indeed, outside the peak, fares drop to levels that to which many more people can relate. Also, for the moment there's ample availability of advance fares and at useful times of day too (the availability granted at the discretion of the rail company of course).
You’re not wrong there.
“Advance single Wednesday coming on the 07:29 from Bath to Oxford, sir? That’ll be a tenner please!”
“Back home on the 17:04 or 19:00? Yep, you’ve guessed it…another tenner. Or for an extra £15 you can travel back in 1st Class if you like?”
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by ray951 at 20:49, 16th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Yes, 5-car IET’s. Though no reason why Turbos can’t be used in case of shortages (other than the relative lack of performance).
The anytime ticket prices will be the same as currently (routed ‘Not Reading’), surely? There will of course be the possibility of more/cheaper advance fares than now.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Oxonhutch at 20:48, 16th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
... I've no idea if the annual season ticket holder from Swindon to Oxford qualifies for any additional benefits: rail commuters outside London have reason to look ruefully at people holding annual season tickets for travel within London, as these unlock unlimited travel on some or all of London's rail network.
Should do, as the destination is within the Network Card area.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Mark A at 20:46, 16th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Indeed, outside the peak, fares drop to levels that to which many more people can relate. Also, for the moment there's ample availability of advance fares and at useful times of day too (the availability granted at the discretion of the rail company of course).
Checking the annual season ticket Swindon - Oxford, that comes out as £4276, or £16.46 per day. I've no idea if the annual season ticket holder from Swindon to Oxford qualifies for any additional benefits: rail commuters outside London have reason to look ruefully at people holding annual season tickets for travel within London, as these unlock unlimited travel on some or all of London's rail network.
Mark
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by IndustryInsider at 18:28, 16th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Presumably they're IETs as the National Rail site lists 1st class fares against them.
For Bath to Oxford:
Anytime standard day return £77.20
Anytime standard return £169.40
Anytime 1st return £202.20
Anytime 1st return £278.60 (allows travel via Reading but not via London terminals - for comparison, a Bath Spa to London Paddington anytime return is £380.60.)
For Bath to Oxford:
Anytime standard day return £77.20
Anytime standard return £169.40
Anytime 1st return £202.20
Anytime 1st return £278.60 (allows travel via Reading but not via London terminals - for comparison, a Bath Spa to London Paddington anytime return is £380.60.)
Yes, 5-car IET’s. Though no reason why Turbos can’t be used in case of shortages (other than the relative lack of performance).
The anytime ticket prices will be the same as currently (routed ‘Not Reading’), surely? There will of course be the possibility of more/cheaper advance fares than now.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by brooklea at 12:51, 16th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Are the fares any different to now? (Spoiler alert - I don’t think they are).
Those making a day trip, and not travelling out on the first direct train of the day, will presumably pay the (walk-up) Off-Peak Day Return fare of £26.70, which doesn’t seem excessive to me.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Mark A at 12:23, 16th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Bath to Oxford return trip via rail is around 126 miles, so... for the anytime day return, is that ~60 pence per mile? (Or around £1.60 per mile for 1st class return).
Mischievously, we can work out the income from a round trip at peak times with a hypothetical 100% occupancy of the seating by full fare paying adults (not, of course, a calculation that reflects reality). £7272 from First and £22330 from standard, so, the total fare take would be £29.602.
Returning to the real world, yes, if it wasn't for that anytime day return at ~£77, it's actually pricier than Bath Spa to Birmingham which by rail, with its slightly round-the-houses route, is around a 200 mile return trip (and priced for good measure by Crosscountry).
While most people will presumably not be travelling on walk-up tickets it's worth bearing them in mind because if someone *has* to make a short-horizon decision to travel (think 'Family emergency') - does not have their own wheels - and has to use peak time trains, these are the prices to which they'll be exposed.
Mark
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 11:40, 16th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:
Direct Oxford to Swindon rail service set to begin after 23 years
A direct rail service from Oxford to Swindon is expected to set off for the first time in more than 20 years.
The first daily direct service will begin on Monday from 07:00 BST, travelling from Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads, after Network Rail and Great Western Railway (GWR) gave the final sign-off on Friday. The new service, which comes back into operation after 23 years, cuts more than 10 minutes off the current fastest weekday journey time to under 30 minutes.
Marcus Jones, Network Rail western route director, said the service would "open up new opportunities for work, education and leisure".
Currently, there are no direct services between Swindon and Oxford, according to the Local Democracy Reporting Service. Passengers have to change at Didcot Parkway or Reading to travel between the two stations.
It comes after the Office of Rail and Road (ORR) approved a bid on 13 May from GWR to run a two-hourly service between Bristol, Swindon and Oxford on weekdays and Saturdays from 17 May.
The new service will run Monday to Saturday, between Bristol Temple Meads, Bath Spa, Chippenham, Swindon and Oxford. The first service leaves Oxford at 07:00 on Monday, arriving into Swindon at 07:30 and Bristol Temple Meads at 08:20. From Bristol, the first train will leave at 07:14, arriving into Swindon at 07:59 and Oxford at 08:32. Fastest direct journey times from Oxford will be one hour and eight minutes, and from Bristol one hour and 11 minutes.
Jones said: "These links will make it easier for people to travel between key economic centres, opening up new opportunities for work, education and leisure, while we continue to deliver further improvements across the route in the months ahead."
Transport Secretary and Swindon South MP Heidi Alexander said the service would "provide a fast, convenient alternative to being stuck in a traffic jam on the A420".
Mark Hopwood, GWR managing director, said: "We are confident that these new services demonstrate the value of rail in driving economic growth, environmental benefits, and creating education and employment opportunities."
A direct rail service from Oxford to Swindon is expected to set off for the first time in more than 20 years.
The first daily direct service will begin on Monday from 07:00 BST, travelling from Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads, after Network Rail and Great Western Railway (GWR) gave the final sign-off on Friday. The new service, which comes back into operation after 23 years, cuts more than 10 minutes off the current fastest weekday journey time to under 30 minutes.
Marcus Jones, Network Rail western route director, said the service would "open up new opportunities for work, education and leisure".
Currently, there are no direct services between Swindon and Oxford, according to the Local Democracy Reporting Service. Passengers have to change at Didcot Parkway or Reading to travel between the two stations.
It comes after the Office of Rail and Road (ORR) approved a bid on 13 May from GWR to run a two-hourly service between Bristol, Swindon and Oxford on weekdays and Saturdays from 17 May.
The new service will run Monday to Saturday, between Bristol Temple Meads, Bath Spa, Chippenham, Swindon and Oxford. The first service leaves Oxford at 07:00 on Monday, arriving into Swindon at 07:30 and Bristol Temple Meads at 08:20. From Bristol, the first train will leave at 07:14, arriving into Swindon at 07:59 and Oxford at 08:32. Fastest direct journey times from Oxford will be one hour and eight minutes, and from Bristol one hour and 11 minutes.
Jones said: "These links will make it easier for people to travel between key economic centres, opening up new opportunities for work, education and leisure, while we continue to deliver further improvements across the route in the months ahead."
Transport Secretary and Swindon South MP Heidi Alexander said the service would "provide a fast, convenient alternative to being stuck in a traffic jam on the A420".
Mark Hopwood, GWR managing director, said: "We are confident that these new services demonstrate the value of rail in driving economic growth, environmental benefits, and creating education and employment opportunities."
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:04, 16th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
There have been whispers of exactly that happening! Can’t see it myself, not for a few years at least, but you never know.
Well, the stock do have train managers aboard.
Lack of stock for those journeys I reckon
Presumably they're IETs as the National Rail site lists 1st class fares against them.
For Bath to Oxford:
Anytime standard day return £77.20
For Bath to Oxford:
Anytime standard day return £77.20
Strewth. Not even an hour.
That's a considerable increase from the current Bath - Oxford fare isn't it?
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by grahame at 03:46, 16th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Pathed as IETs - thought I did note one Saturday case in recent months of a turbo being run instead.

All times shown are public timetable departures (obviously arrivals at final station)
No Sunday service
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by ChrisB at 19:26, 15th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
There have been whispers of exactly that happening! Can’t see it myself, not for a few years at least, but you never know.
Well, the stock do have train managers aboard.
Lack of stock for those journeys I reckon
Presumably they're IETs as the National Rail site lists 1st class fares against them.
For Bath to Oxford:
Anytime standard day return £77.20
For Bath to Oxford:
Anytime standard day return £77.20
Strewth. Not even an hour.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Mark A at 19:22, 15th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Presumably they're IETs as the National Rail site lists 1st class fares against them.
For Bath to Oxford:
Anytime standard day return £77.20
Anytime standard return £169.40
Anytime 1st return £202.20
Anytime 1st return £278.60 (allows travel via Reading but not via London terminals - for comparison, a Bath Spa to London Paddington anytime return is £380.60.)
Mark
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by JohnM at 18:24, 15th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Indeed, all good for a launch on Monday as originally hoped. Services now in RealTimeTrains and the journey planners:
Brilliant! For my Melksham-Bristol commute:- it's now practical to catch the 07:21 from Melksham instead of the 06:29 (because if I miss the unofficial 07:33 connection at Chippenham (likely) there's the new 07:47, don't have to wait for the 08:09)
- what was going to be a >30 min wait at Chippenham (due to the 18:00 CPM-MKM moving to 18:09) is reduced to ~20 mins thanks to the new 17:15 from Bristol, which I'll catch instead of the 17:00.

Yes - those are *very* pleasing ... and it is also pleasing to see practical commutes from Westbury, Trowbridge, Melkshan (and Chippenham and Swindon) to Oxford too.
A good example of a service planned and implemented for a different market also having positive benefits elsewhere.
...although it will be interesting to see how busy those services are; the Chippenham-Bristol IETs are fine if you move down to coach C and beyond, certainly a much better chance of getting 2 seats to yourself (and working on laptop) than on the 2 coach service I'm currently catching at Trowbridge.
Speaking of which, the 06:29 Trowbridge and 07:21 Chippenham commutes are both scheduled as taking 59 mins. But the latter should occasionally drop to 44 mins when the 07:21 is on time, allowing connection with the (existing) 07:33 Bristol service instead of the (new) 07:47.
EDIT: that is, I think someone said the new services wouldn't be IETs? Might have got that wrong.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Oxonhutch at 18:03, 15th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
There have been whispers of exactly that happening! Can’t see it myself, not for a few years at least, but you never know.
Well, the stock do have train managers aboard.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by IndustryInsider at 16:50, 15th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Indeed, all good for a launch on Monday as originally hoped. Services now in RealTimeTrains and the journey planners:
Brilliant! For my Melksham-Bristol commute:- it's now practical to catch the 07:21 from Melksham instead of the 06:29 (because if I miss the unofficial 07:33 connection at Chippenham (likely) there's the new 07:47, don't have to wait for the 08:09)
- what was going to be a >30 min wait at Chippenham (due to the 18:00 CPM-MKM moving to 18:09) is reduced to ~20 mins thanks to the new 17:15 from Bristol, which I'll catch instead of the 17:00.

Yes - those are *very* pleasing ... and it is also pleasing to see practical commutes from Westbury, Trowbridge, Melkshan (and Chippenham and Swindon) to Oxford too.
A good example of a service planned and implemented for a different market also having positive benefits elsewhere.
Can they be persuaded to continue the service on to Milton Keynes? I understand that there is an unmet need for such a service and a nice newly rebuilt line available...
There have been whispers of exactly that happening! Can’t see it myself, not for a few years at least, but you never know.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by grahame at 15:17, 15th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Indeed, all good for a launch on Monday as originally hoped. Services now in RealTimeTrains and the journey planners:
Brilliant! For my Melksham-Bristol commute:- it's now practical to catch the 07:21 from Melksham instead of the 06:29 (because if I miss the unofficial 07:33 connection at Chippenham (likely) there's the new 07:47, don't have to wait for the 08:09)
- what was going to be a >30 min wait at Chippenham (due to the 18:00 CPM-MKM moving to 18:09) is reduced to ~20 mins thanks to the new 17:15 from Bristol, which I'll catch instead of the 17:00.

Yes - those are *very* pleasing ... and it is also pleasing to see practical commutes from Westbury, Trowbridge, Melkshan (and Chippenham and Swindon) to Oxford too.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by JohnM at 12:56, 15th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Indeed, all good for a launch on Monday as originally hoped. Services now in RealTimeTrains and the journey planners:
Brilliant! For my Melksham-Bristol commute:- it's now practical to catch the 07:21 from Melksham instead of the 06:29 (because if I miss the unofficial 07:33 connection at Chippenham (likely) there's the new 07:47, don't have to wait for the 08:09)
- what was going to be a >30 min wait at Chippenham (due to the 18:00 CPM-MKM moving to 18:09) is reduced to ~20 mins thanks to the new 17:15 from Bristol, which I'll catch instead of the 17:00.

| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by grahame at 12:45, 15th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I'm wondering how the Coffeeshop forum's disruption map will render this service. (Obviously, also hoping it will not need to render it at all.)
Mark
Mark
It's been doing distruptions to the two Saturday trains AOK - it should show fine.
I did note that the King's Speech includes a rationalisation of 14 websites into one and there is no guarantee our feed will remain - so there may be changes needed at the Coffee Shop.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Mark A at 12:16, 15th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Can they be persuaded to continue the service on to Milton Keynes? I understand that there is an unmet need for such a service and a nice newly rebuilt line available...
*Snorts*: introducing the new East of the city park and ride for Bath: Oxford Parkway. :-)
Mark
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Mark A at 12:05, 15th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I'm wondering how the Coffeeshop forum's disruption map will render this service. (Obviously, also hoping it will not need to render it at all.)
Mark
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by eightonedee at 11:30, 15th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Can they be persuaded to continue the service on to Milton Keynes? I understand that there is an unmet need for such a service and a nice newly rebuilt line available...
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:53, 15th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
…so the longer the start is delayed, the better in terms of the problems with that.
I’m hearing the start might not be delayed now!
Indeed, all good for a launch on Monday as originally hoped. Services now in RealTimeTrains and the journey planners:
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/gb-nr:SWI/2026-05-18/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt&toc=GW
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by ray951 at 19:58, 14th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
In terms of road crossings, on the GWML there's the terrible twosome at Steventon, and on the line to Oxford there's an 'Authorised user only one with a not-particularly-helpful road arrangement at either side - recorded on a Google Streetview from 2011 with a sort of vehicular dance in progress and which can't fill anyone that sees the image with much reassurance. c. 2016 it received a pair of gantries at either side but I don't know what those were for. (Streetview link below shows the most recent image...)
Mark
https://maps.app.goo.gl/qna9Cq2HHiaDtV9E8
The gantries are part of the aborted electrification scheme to Oxford, cancelled 10 years and no sign of it ever being finished.Mark
https://maps.app.goo.gl/qna9Cq2HHiaDtV9E8
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by IndustryInsider at 19:00, 14th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
It’s the UWC (User Worked Crossings), that are the issue, not road crossings.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Mark A at 13:52, 14th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
In terms of road crossings, on the GWML there's the terrible twosome at Steventon, and on the line to Oxford there's an 'Authorised user only one with a not-particularly-helpful road arrangement at either side - recorded on a Google Streetview from 2011 with a sort of vehicular dance in progress and which can't fill anyone that sees the image with much reassurance. c. 2016 it received a pair of gantries at either side but I don't know what those were for. (Streetview link below shows the most recent image...)
Mark
https://maps.app.goo.gl/qna9Cq2HHiaDtV9E8
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Oxonhutch at 13:07, 14th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Is it me or does this conflate two separate issues?
Indeed, I don't recall any level crossings on the Didcot west curve ...
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Mark A at 11:06, 14th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Is it me or does this conflate two separate issues?
Mark
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:09, 13th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:
Direct trains to run from Swindon to Oxford if line is made safer

The GWR service would mean passengers would no longer need to change at Didcot Parkway - Image © Aled Thomas
A direct daily rail service between Swindon and Oxford has been given the green light as long as some level crossings on the line are made safer.
The Office of Rail and Road (ORR) has approved an application from Great Western Railway (GWR) to run a two-hourly service between Bristol, Swindon and Oxford on weekdays and Saturdays from 17 May. An ORR spokesman said the service has been approved provided Network Rail brings in "reasonably practicable level crossing safety measures" on the route.
A GWR spokesman, said it understands customers will be "disappointed" the service has not been "fully" reinstated but it will continue to work with Network Rail to "understand what more can be done".
Currently there are no direct services between Swindon and Oxford, according to the Local Democracy Reporting Service. Passengers have to change at Didcot Parkway or Reading to travel between the two stations. A direct service would shave more than 10 minutes off the current fastest weekday journey time to under 30 minutes.
The ORR said after analysing the "impact on punctuality and reliability" as well as level crossing safety, it had approved the service "subject" to certain conditions. "Network Rail will undertake a performance review of the two-hourly service before deciding on a long-term view on GWR's proposal to run hourly services," it said.
A GWR spokesman said customers will be disappointed the ORR "has not been able to approve proposals to fully reinstate services - at this stage as hoped. We will continue working closely with Network Rail and industry partners to understand what more can be done to introduce additional services as quickly and safely as possible," he said.
The proposals came after a trial saw limited weekend services run between Swindon and Oxford in 2024.
Jim Robbins, leader of Swindon Borough Council, said it was "outstanding news for Swindon".
"Shortening the time needed to get to Oxford will be massive for people who regularly travel and take pressure off the A420," he said. "This will help us attract even more jobs and growth to the town."
Conservative leader Gary Sumner, said it was "positive news" for the town. "I will be very interested to see the take-up of the service," he said. "Anything that adds to connectivity is to be welcomed, but as usual, it's having reasonably priced fares which are the key to the service being sustainable."

The GWR service would mean passengers would no longer need to change at Didcot Parkway - Image © Aled Thomas
A direct daily rail service between Swindon and Oxford has been given the green light as long as some level crossings on the line are made safer.
The Office of Rail and Road (ORR) has approved an application from Great Western Railway (GWR) to run a two-hourly service between Bristol, Swindon and Oxford on weekdays and Saturdays from 17 May. An ORR spokesman said the service has been approved provided Network Rail brings in "reasonably practicable level crossing safety measures" on the route.
A GWR spokesman, said it understands customers will be "disappointed" the service has not been "fully" reinstated but it will continue to work with Network Rail to "understand what more can be done".
Currently there are no direct services between Swindon and Oxford, according to the Local Democracy Reporting Service. Passengers have to change at Didcot Parkway or Reading to travel between the two stations. A direct service would shave more than 10 minutes off the current fastest weekday journey time to under 30 minutes.
The ORR said after analysing the "impact on punctuality and reliability" as well as level crossing safety, it had approved the service "subject" to certain conditions. "Network Rail will undertake a performance review of the two-hourly service before deciding on a long-term view on GWR's proposal to run hourly services," it said.
A GWR spokesman said customers will be disappointed the ORR "has not been able to approve proposals to fully reinstate services - at this stage as hoped. We will continue working closely with Network Rail and industry partners to understand what more can be done to introduce additional services as quickly and safely as possible," he said.
The proposals came after a trial saw limited weekend services run between Swindon and Oxford in 2024.
Jim Robbins, leader of Swindon Borough Council, said it was "outstanding news for Swindon".
"Shortening the time needed to get to Oxford will be massive for people who regularly travel and take pressure off the A420," he said. "This will help us attract even more jobs and growth to the town."
Conservative leader Gary Sumner, said it was "positive news" for the town. "I will be very interested to see the take-up of the service," he said. "Anything that adds to connectivity is to be welcomed, but as usual, it's having reasonably priced fares which are the key to the service being sustainable."
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by anthony215 at 22:13, 13th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Heard its been given the green light by the ORR
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by IndustryInsider at 19:17, 12th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
…so the longer the start is delayed, the better in terms of the problems with that.
I’m hearing the start might not be delayed now!
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Noggin at 12:40, 11th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Perhaps a French union might be able to provide one of these for Sunday services?
https://www.eurogunzel.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Les-cheminots-ont-manifest%C3%A9-dans-le-centre-de-Nice-en-ce-lundi-sans-train-video-by-France-3-Provence-Alpes-C%C3%B4te-dAzur.jpg
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by johnneyw at 10:03, 11th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Purely out of idle curiosity on my part: do any of those jobsworths civil servants at the Department for Transport have invitations to attend these famed GWR staff Sunday BBQs? 

The GWR Bumper Sunday BBQ Recipe Book".... surely a best seller just waiting to be published?
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by TaplowGreen at 21:15, 10th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
... the same shortages over summer as every year, especially on Sundays as the DfT are still sitting on the Sunday in the working week proposals.
Purely out of idle curiosity on my part: do any of those

Hmmmmm......civil servants with Sunday in the working week........now there's a thought! (Or indeed any time after around 3pm on a Friday!)

| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:32, 10th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
... the same shortages over summer as every year, especially on Sundays as the DfT are still sitting on the Sunday in the working week proposals.
Purely out of idle curiosity on my part: do any of those

| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by IndustryInsider at 12:56, 10th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From where will the additional rolling stock and crews be found to run these services without shortforming/cancelling others?
175s in Cornwall cascading some IETs. Who knows - Hungerford / Kintbury / Bedwyn may get back their hourly London train. Not sure on crews - perhaps staff will feel patriotic and be prepared to do more overtime if they're working for the nation.
Oxford depot drivers are signing the route, and will share the work with Bristol and Paddington (AIUI). At Oxford depot there has been slack for a while now, but they were unable to help out much with the routes that have traditionally struggled with crew as they only went as far west as Swindon.
Plus a lot of trainees are going through the system at the moment.
Though I fully expect there to be the same shortages over summer as every year, especially on Sundays as the DfT are still sitting on the Sunday in the working week proposals.
And yes, stock will come from the 175 introduction, so the longer the start is delayed, the better in terms of the problems with that.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by grahame at 07:40, 10th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From where will the additional rolling stock and crews be found to run these services without shortforming/cancelling others?
175s in Cornwall cascading some IETs. Who knows - Hungerford / Kintbury / Bedwyn may get back their hourly London train. Not sure on crews - perhaps staff will feel patriotic and be prepared to do more overtime if they're working for the nation.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by TaplowGreen at 06:59, 10th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From where will the additional rolling stock and crews be found to run these services without shortforming/cancelling others?
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by ellendune at 21:16, 9th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Rich Wilcox has tweeted/x'd -
Suspect that level crossing work will delay the service starting....
The ORR has approved GWR's bid to run two-hourly Weekday and Saturday services from Bristol to Oxford.
However, Network Rail has to implement risk measures at 13 level crossings before any GWR services can start
This only for a trial period - to end 2027 & ORR is quite clear that a "strong presumption of continuation of rights does NOT apply"
However, Network Rail has to implement risk measures at 13 level crossings before any GWR services can start
This only for a trial period - to end 2027 & ORR is quite clear that a "strong presumption of continuation of rights does NOT apply"
Suspect that level crossing work will delay the service starting....
By 2027 we can expect that GBR will determine whether these services continue not ORR.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by bobm at 20:55, 9th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Given those crossings were flagged in paragraph 12 of this document a year ago, I wonder how far that work has got.
https://www.orr.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2025-11/gwr-ltd-s22a-301st-sa-network-rail-representations.pdf
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by ray951 at 19:30, 9th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Rich Wilcox has tweeted/x'd -
Suspect that level crossing work will delay the service starting....
The ORR has approved GWR's bid to run two-hourly Weekday and Saturday services from Bristol to Oxford.
However, Network Rail has to implement risk measures at 13 level crossings before any GWR services can start
This only for a trial period - to end 2027 & ORR is quite clear that a "strong presumption of continuation of rights does NOT apply"
However, Network Rail has to implement risk measures at 13 level crossings before any GWR services can start
This only for a trial period - to end 2027 & ORR is quite clear that a "strong presumption of continuation of rights does NOT apply"
Suspect that level crossing work will delay the service starting....
And they wonder why the railways cost so much to run.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by ChrisB at 16:42, 9th May 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Rich Wilcox has tweeted/x'd -
The ORR has approved GWR's bid to run two-hourly Weekday and Saturday services from Bristol to Oxford.
However, Network Rail has to implement risk measures at 13 level crossings before any GWR services can start
This only for a trial period - to end 2027 & ORR is quite clear that a "strong presumption of continuation of rights does NOT apply"
However, Network Rail has to implement risk measures at 13 level crossings before any GWR services can start
This only for a trial period - to end 2027 & ORR is quite clear that a "strong presumption of continuation of rights does NOT apply"
Suspect that level crossing work will delay the service starting....
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:42, 12th April 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
However on the 13th June (a Saturday) there are trips from Bristol to Oxford and back.
And, interestingly, they are on the alternative hour to the proposed weekday service (with the different headcodes). So, perhaps that's how the Saturday service will shape up?
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Bob_Blakey at 08:46, 12th April 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The through EXD > OXF service, which is part of a Stoke Gifford > BRI > EXD > BRI >TAU > BRI > EXD > OXF > Stoke Gifford diagram, appears to be due to a temporary recasting of the normal Saturday timetable consequent upon the 23/05 to 08/06 Severn Tunnel closure. The normal EXD <> CDF Saturday services restart on 13th June.
At least that is according to RTT!
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by bobm at 11:25, 11th April 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I was checking RTT earlier to see if there was any sign of them. As II says they have yet to appear.
However on the 13th June (a Saturday) there are trips from Bristol to Oxford and back.
Also on both that day and the previous week, there is a through service from Exeter St Davids to Oxford.
RTT has been known to produce false alarms but this is puzzling.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by IndustryInsider at 11:01, 11th April 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The new Oxford<>Bristol service is still awaiting sign off from the DfT AIUI - so the timings aren't in RTT or anywhere public yet. But this is the very likely weekday timings and headcodes assuming it does...though they are leaving it late to start in May, so perhaps it will be later in the summer?
Ones in BOLD I am pretty certain about, the ones in Italics involved a little bit of guesswork! Note the headcodes jumping in increments of four, i.e. 1N51 then 1N55, which is to allow the hourly service to be slotted in next year, so there would be a 1N53 at around 08:00 from Oxford to Bristol for example - keeping odd numbers for services to Bristol and even numbers for services to Oxford.
07:00 OXF-BRI (08:20) - 1N51
09:xx OXF-BRI (10:xx) - 1N55
11:03 OXF-BRI (12:13) - 1N59
13:03 OXF-BRI (14:15) - 1N63
15:04 OXF-BRI (16:13) - 1N67
17:00 OXF-BRI (18:18) - 1N71
19:04 OXF-BRI (20:16) - 1N75
21:xx OXF-BRI (22:xx) - 1N79
07:xx BRI-OXF (08:xx) - 1N52
09:08 BRI-OXF (10:25) - 1N56
11:xx BRI-OXF (12:xx) - 1N60
13:09 BRI-OXF (14:29) - 1N64 (via Bristol Parkway?)
15:16 BRI-OXF (16:30) - 1N68
17:12 BRI-OXF (18:29) - 1N72
19:15 BRI-OXF (20:32) - 1N76
21:10 BRI-OXF (22:27) - 1N80
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by grahame at 09:33, 11th April 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
10:18 Bristol Temple Meads to Oxford due 11:27
10:18 Bristol Temple Meads to Oxford due 11:27 will be reinstated.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 5. First class not available. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service.
10:18 Bristol Temple Meads to Oxford due 11:27 will be reinstated.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 5. First class not available. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by grahame at 08:27, 11th April 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Wobble. Hope not too many people got directed away.
10:18 Bristol Temple Meads to Oxford due 11:27
12:02 Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads due 13:13
12:02 Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads due 13:13 will be reinstated and will now run as scheduled.
Last Updated:11/04/2026 08:23
12:02 Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads due 13:13
12:02 Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads due 13:13 will be reinstated and will now run as scheduled.
Last Updated:11/04/2026 08:23
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:22, 20th February 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Given some of the five car London Paddington-Oxford services have a lengthy layover at Oxford I was wondering if there is some scope for inter-working.
It's possible, but largely depends on the timings. If, for example, they stick with an xx:03 departure time from Oxford (as per the Saturday trials) then that wouldn't work as it stands, but if they went with an xx:33 it might. However, the negatives to doing that are that not all of them are 5-cars (especially at weekends) and they arrive from London as DOO whereas the Bristol services will need a TM, so you start to create problems getting staff in position.
I assume it’s not possible to arrive and go back from Oxford without the time consuming trip to the sidings and return.
As Chris says, no need to go to the sidings, though until Platform 5 opens (a couple of years away still, even if being optimistic), there's very little time before the next service is due into either of the through platforms. I would images, as per the current Saturday trial services, most will arrive on Platform 4, shunt to Down Carriage Siding 3, and then return to depart from Platform 4. A late arrival might mean that the train can be kept in the platform.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by ChrisB at 20:09, 18th February 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
All through platforms are bi-di....
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by bobm at 20:07, 18th February 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Given some of the five car London Paddington-Oxford services have a lengthy layover at Oxford I was wondering if there is some scope for inter-working.
I assume it’s not possible to arrive and go back from Oxford without the time consuming trip to the sidings and return.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by IndustryInsider at 11:07, 18th February 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
With what stock, I wonder?
Based on the 70-minute journey time, two 5-car IET's would be required for a service every two hours. Only the one extra for the hourly service, with around 40 minutes total turnaround time at Bristol and Oxford each cycle.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 09:43, 18th February 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Interesting coz one of the reasons for turning down additional services on that stretch between Swindon & Didcot West was lack of pathing. They've already to find room for the West Wales - Paddington open access
Network Rail looked at four applications together: GWR Oxford-Bristol, Midland Central Western Railway (aka SLC Rail) Nottingham-Bristol, Lumo Paddington-Hereford, Lumo Paddington-Paignton.
They said GWR Oxford-Bristol would fit, although they might need to send a couple of services via Bristol Parkway rather than Bath. Lumo Paignton and Lumo Hereford would partly work on weekdays but not really at weekends. Their opinion on MCWR is perhaps best summed up with the phrase "lol nope".
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by bobm at 19:51, 17th February 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
With what stock, I wonder?
Those in Bedwyn believe it will use stock being released from elsewhere that was earmarked to restore their through services to London Paddington.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by ChrisB at 19:03, 17th February 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Interesting coz one of the reasons for turning down additional services on that stretch between Swindon & Didcot West was lack of pathing. They've already to find room for the West Wales - Paddington open access
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 18:59, 17th February 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
It's not up to Hendy to approve it, it's up to the ORR. As far as I can see from the Swindon press release, Hendy has just written a letter saying "that sounds like a nice idea".
That said, apparently Network Rail are broadly supportive, so there's probably not much standing in its way. Assuming enough 175s can be crank-started so some IETs can be released...
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by ChrisB at 18:43, 17th February 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
With what stock, I wonder?
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by anthony215 at 18:30, 17th February 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Local councillors in Swindon saying lord Hendy has approved a 2 hourly Swindon to Oxford service
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by bobm at 15:32, 31st January 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Problems with the service today.
The first round trip arrived back at Bristol Temple Meads nearly 25 minutes late. The second round trip was then cancelled due to "a fault on this train".
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 16:19, 2nd January 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
A rather peevish response from the Bedwyn folks to the Oxford–Bristol plans:
https://www.railmagazine.com/news/passenger-group-concern-over-gwr-oxford-bristol-plans
As Rail points out, the Government expressly asked GWR for a Bristol–Oxford plan in 2023 (following up many years' lobbying by Oxfordshire County Council and others), so the assertion that "The Oxford-Bristol plan is seen as an attempt to offset a potential threat from SLC Rail’s proposed Nottingham-Bristol via Oxford open access service" doesn't really hold water IMO.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by IndustryInsider at 12:56, 5th December 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The latest Oxford Clarion newsletter reports that GWR have applied to the ORR to introduce a full Oxford–Bristol service. Every two hours from May 2026, increasing to every hour from May 2027.
More details here:
https://www.orr.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2025-11/gwr-ltd-s22a-301st-sa-network-rail-representations.pdf
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 12:47, 5th December 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The latest Oxford Clarion newsletter reports that GWR have applied to the ORR to introduce a full Oxford–Bristol service. Every two hours from May 2026, increasing to every hour from May 2027.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by IndustryInsider at 11:50, 18th November 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Correct. Talk to your MP.
Sympathy for GWR. Their budget is still shrinking year-on-year
Sympathy for GWR. Their budget is still shrinking year-on-year
..............not too much sympathy though

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| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:04, 18th November 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Correct. Talk to your MP.
Sympathy for GWR. Their budget is still shrinking year-on-year
Sympathy for GWR. Their budget is still shrinking year-on-year
..............not too much sympathy though

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| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Ollie at 23:14, 16th November 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Ollie - are you saying that the same PAD non-HSS drivers drive 166s AND 800s? And the HSS drivers also drive just 800s?
To answer on behalf of Ollie, yes that’s correct. Non-HSS drivers sign Turbos, IETs, and 387s.
Thank you II.
Some also sign the Class 230.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by IndustryInsider at 20:21, 16th November 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Ollie - are you saying that the same PAD non-HSS drivers drive 166s AND 800s? And the HSS drivers also drive just 800s?
To answer on behalf of Ollie, yes that’s correct. Non-HSS drivers sign Turbos, IETs, and 387s.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by ChrisB at 17:45, 16th November 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Correct. Talk to your MP.
Sympathy for GWR. Their budget is still shrinking year-on-year
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by grahame at 17:44, 16th November 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Money.
All the abilities you are suggesting with flexibility cost money. And if the DfT don't want the flexibility, they won't pay GWR for it. GWR have NO choice, but do the DfT bidding.
All the abilities you are suggesting with flexibility cost money. And if the DfT don't want the flexibility, they won't pay GWR for it. GWR have NO choice, but do the DfT bidding.
So if it's true that every idea would cost money, logic suggests we need to amend the DfT's bidding and priorities, doesn't it. And/or that we take a look and see if there's some sort of way that the various objectives come together in such a way that everyone involved want to work for them and get dividends.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by ChrisB at 17:27, 16th November 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Money.
All the abilities you are suggesting with flexibility cost money. And if the DfT don't want the flexibility, they won't pay GWR for it. GWR have NO choice, but do the DfT bidding. You do know that!
Ollie - are you saying that the same PAD non-HSS drivers drive 166s AND 800s? And the HSS drivers also drive just 800s?
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by grahame at 08:25, 16th November 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Many thanks for that insight into a complex situation, Ollie - I read the answer as being somewhere between a glib "no, no, no" and something that can obviously be done. "Where there's a will, there's likely to be a way" - we haven't considered the cascading / transfer of trains to meet the commitments, for example. Sorry - but I remain of the concern that GWR do not have enough resources or enough flexibility in their resources to meet their day to day commitments to a reasonably robust degree throughout. Management thing - they have gotten into a situation where far too many difficult calls have to be made, and as those calls are made and the results do severe damage to the business, to the customers, and to the communities they 'serve'.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Ollie at 03:22, 16th November 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Route knowledge is probably a bit of a topic in itself, each depot has different routes and traction knowledge, then even within that depot the levels of route and traction knowledge will be different.
To use the current example, the Oxford - Bristol services are currently being operated by Paddington drivers, we do not sign via Melksham so wouldn't be of any use to cover the services Graham has mentioned. At Paddington on the non-HSS side, we are multi traction (not 158s) which is why the service was able to be a 166 vice 800 last week.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by grahame at 21:07, 15th November 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Different depot. Different traction. Different route.
Graham knows this.... 

Not that simple. yes, Chris, Bob has given the "official" answer ... but why is that so?
Bristol to Swindon services can be diverted via a reversal at Bradford South Junction and so surely drivers have that route knowledge, further there is a direct Bristol to London via Wesburty service ... and staff do overlap / work with the next depot.
And didn't I note that the Bristol -> Oxford ran - was it today or last week - 3 car. So the driver that time knew how to drive a 165, 166 or 158 which are exactly the units used on the Westbury to Swindon.
"Different depot. Different traction. Different route." is easy to say but those all overlap and have fuzzy edges, so it's a convenient reason to have. It's not as if there was a spare driver at St Blazey or Redhill. There is the wider question as to why there are such tight route knowledges and thin overlaps these days, so that if anything goes that bit wrong recovery, the system doesn't have the ability to switch and recover easily.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by ChrisB at 20:36, 15th November 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Graham knows this....

| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by bobm at 16:59, 15th November 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Different depot. Different traction. Different route.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by grahame at 16:19, 15th November 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Nine coaches on today's services in place of the usual five (or the three which did last Saturday's first round trip).
So they have enough staff to run those experimental services but not the standard contracted bread and butter stuff between Westury and Swindion - two round trips on there cancelled again today, "shortage of staff".
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by bobm at 16:15, 15th November 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Nine coaches on today's services in place of the usual five (or the three which did last Saturday's first round trip).
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by ChrisB at 20:52, 28th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
With the direct train cancelled, permission should be granted for any reasonable (more expensive) routings
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by grahame at 21:35, 27th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Well....some might have preferred to take longer but easier with lifts and go via Reading?
And ... at a higher price; my ticket was "not via Reading".
Of course, you could now do Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads with a single change at Worcestershire Parkway ;-)
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by ChrisB at 21:12, 27th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Well....some might have preferred to take longer but easier with lifts and go via Reading?
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Mark A at 20:57, 27th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
As I came through Didcot, I noticed that helpful announcements were being made directing people off the train from Oxford to go through the subway and turn left up to platform 1 to head west.
With the direct train cancelled, what other options were there? Unless I'm misreading Realtime Trains, without something making an additional call at Didcot, the opportunities are quite sparse.
Mark
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Mark A at 19:56, 27th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
As I came through Didcot, I noticed that helpful announcements were being made directing people off the train from Oxford to go through the subway and turn left up to platform 1 to head west. Only those of us in the know would have carried on through the barrier's wide gate, right, around the outside, up the slope and then back in through the sloped wide gate. One couple were trying it but struggling for at least 5 minutes with the barrier which was unstaffed, closed, and by the looks of things reusing their ticket. I know there was probably a help point / button they probably weren't aware of. What a wonderful way to encourage custom.
Yes, there is: during the earlier part of the covid pandemic, and returning from the notorious April 'Day return to Finmere' expedition, it refused my ticket too and summoned a railway genie using the 'Help' button.
Mark
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by grahame at 19:37, 27th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Funnily enough, I took the opportunity of an arrival in Swindon with a LONG wait for the next Melksham train to walk up to the bus boulevard for a first look, then took the 49 to Devizes and the 273 on from there to Melksham. Now recovering from the long day as I walks substantially on having parted company with Mark.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by Mark A at 19:14, 27th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Fortunately (for certain defined values of 'Fortunately') after we briefly enjoyed what the Turf PH had to offer, I needed to abandon Graham to further explorations of Oxford and head for a shop, then an earlier return than the through train offers.
For good measure, I chose the option to head through the walkway beneath the lines at Osney rail bridge, along the Botley Road across the Thames (impressive building site for most of the way and most photogenic photo opportunities now blocked by hoarding). After negotiating that, I headed to the bus stop for Swindon, enjoying the journey on a more or less empty top deck of a double decker bus via Faringdon.
It's safe to say that rail staff who in the dim and distant past worked the branch to Faringdon would not recognise the approach to the town now, with a retail park built beside the route, while the road approach to the town, built on top of the branch, runs alongside new housing estates. At a later stage in the journey, the bus route provides an opportunity for canal spotting, and if anything, there's rather more to be seen of that than there is of the branch line to Faringdon.
At Swindon, the old bus station is already starting to fade out of existence - even more than it faded when it was in use that is. Pulling up in the bus boulevard and heading for the railway station, I quickly learned that it's best to cross to the western side of Milford Street to avoid some not brilliant paving, it's a little further, but it wasn't a huge hike. There's mapping on the funded-by-advertising bus-stops-with-seating that puts the place in context, though I didn't quite investigate what signage there is between station and buses - in either direction. Perhaps it's fine. The bus boulevard didn't feel like an enormous hub of activity, but maybe that's just 2025 Swindon new town centre for you, even at ten to five on a Saturday afternoon.
Mark
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by grahame at 19:11, 27th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Chippenham to Oxford this morning was fine bus ...
15:18 Bristol Temple Meads to Oxford due 16:29
17:12 Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads due 18:23
17:12 Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads due 18:23 will be cancelled.
This is due to a short-notice change to the timetable.
17:12 Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads due 18:23
17:12 Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads due 18:23 will be cancelled.
This is due to a short-notice change to the timetable.
Real time trains blames a planning error.
Yep, I suspect that the train path was in the timetable until it was notices that it was missing a physical train, a driver or a train manager, at which point the timetable was changed
Whichever - this is what it lead to at Oxford

and this was the sort of thing people then had to do at Didcot

As I came through Didcot, I noticed that helpful announcements were being made directing people off the train from Oxford to go through the subway and turn left up to platform 1 to head west. Only those of us in the know would have carried on through the barrier's wide gate, right, around the outside, up the slope and then back in through the sloped wide gate. One couple were trying it but struggling for at least 5 minutes with the barrier which was unstaffed, closed, and by the looks of things reusing their ticket. I know there was probably a help point / button they probably weren't aware of. What a wonderful way to encourage custom.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by bobm at 16:10, 27th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Real time trains blames a planning error.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by grahame at 16:00, 27th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Chippenham to Oxford this morning was fine bus ...
15:18 Bristol Temple Meads to Oxford due 16:29
17:12 Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads due 18:23
17:12 Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads due 18:23 will be cancelled.
This is due to a short-notice change to the timetable.
17:12 Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads due 18:23
17:12 Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads due 18:23 will be cancelled.
This is due to a short-notice change to the timetable.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by grahame at 11:10, 16th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From https://www.facebook.com/MelkshamTUG
From this Saturday, 20th September 2025, the Saturday through train from Chippenham to Oxford returns. Connection at 10:09 from Melksham, 10:44 from Chippenham, arrive at Oxford at 11:27. Return service direct to Chippenham from Oxford at 17:12, or return to Melkshan at 16:30, 18:02 or 20:05, changing at Didcot and Swindon.
Day return fare - £21.80 each, or £14.50 each with a railcard or in a group of 3. Same fare also applies if you want to go on from Oxford to Bicester Village, and it's the same fare from Melksham or Chippenham.
Tickets can be purchased prior to departure at the ticket machines at Melksham or at Chippenham Station, or from the ticket office in Chippenham or if you are paying in cash on the train from Melksham.

Day return fare - £21.80 each, or £14.50 each with a railcard or in a group of 3. Same fare also applies if you want to go on from Oxford to Bicester Village, and it's the same fare from Melksham or Chippenham.
Tickets can be purchased prior to departure at the ticket machines at Melksham or at Chippenham Station, or from the ticket office in Chippenham or if you are paying in cash on the train from Melksham.

| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by TaplowGreen at 11:53, 6th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Which leads me to the question: At what point does a train manager decide to allow standard class passengers occupy first class seats?
Hardly ever in these days of bargain advance first class fares. First class occupancy, percentage of seats wise, is often the same or even more than standard class on many trains.
"Bargain" doing some extremely heavy lifting there!

| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion Posted by ChrisB at 11:24, 6th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Yes, that's the date for the winter service














