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Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
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Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:17, 26th October 2009
 
From the BBC:

Isle squirrel crosses to mainland


Conservationists hope to make Anglesey a red squirrel haven

Red squirrels have found their way across the Menai Strait from Anglesey to Gwynedd, conservationists believe.

Two squirrels were found at Treborth and on the Faenol estate near Bangor - the first time a member of the species had been found in the area for decades.

Scientists are now waiting for the results of DNA testing to establish if they came from the Anglesey colonies.

Over 300 red squirrels live on Anglesey following 10 years of efforts to clear grey squirrels from the island.

Now Friends of Anglesey Red Squirrel think the endangered animals may have found their way across one of the Menai Strait bridges and started to colonise new habitats on the mainland.


The squirrels could have used either of the two bridges

Conservationist Dr Craig Shuttleworth thinks further culling of grey squirrels will be necessary to allow the newly discovered reds to thrive. "The last squirrel recorded at Treborth was in 1976 so this is great news," he said. "It would be nice to have a colony in Gwynedd. The squirrels were two young adult males, which are sort of teenagers - they are pioneering animals, risk takers. I suspect they came along the railway line, which has a gravel path and plenty of light and quiet. From a scientific point of view it quite clearly demonstrates they can get across, either by bridge or by swimming, which is less likely."

Reds are always under threat from greys because of competition for food and because the greys carry the squirrel pox virus which does not affect them but has a devastating effect on reds.

According to Friends of Anglesey Red Squirrels, the mammals were once widespread on Anglesey but the population declined sharply in the late 1980s as grey squirrels started to predominate.

Two years ago, residents on the island were encouraged to call a special phone line to report sightings of grey squirrels so they could be culled in a bid to completely eradicate greys from the island for good.

 

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Posted by JayMac at 21:18, 26th October 2009
 
Being 'teenagers' these two males are obviously enjoying risk taking on railway property. However there is another important aspect in any teenager's life: Attempting to get your end away. With no suitable lady red squirrels on the mainland I think you'll find the 'Angelsey Two' will have to 'run the risk' again to get back to the island for some hot squirrel action

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Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:01, 29th September 2010
 
As another householder who has suffered from 'squirrels in the loft' for several years now, performing 'Riverdance' over my head, I do have some sympathy with the Reverend ... 

From the BBC:

A vicar from Bredon near Tewkesbury, who caught a grey squirrel in his house, has slammed rules that say he is not allowed to kill or release it.
Douglas Drane caught the animal in a humane trap, but the RSPCA said he'd have to pay a professional to deal with it.
Mr Drane was told he could be breaking the law if he culled the animal, however he was told that it is also illegal to release grey squirrels into the wild.
He told BBC Radio Gloucestershire his garden has been home to the creatures for a number of months. "Over the past two years I've been plagued with squirrels that love my trees but now they've invaded my house," he said. "They've caused quite a lot of damage by first breaking into the loft space, and last year they gnawed through the copper cold water filler tap to my upstairs cistern. You could see the teeth marks on the copper pipe."
Mr Drane then caught one of the squirrels by setting up a trap in the loft.
"I told the RSPCA and they told me that I couldn't kill it, nor could I release it. It's rather absurd."
Mr Drane had to pay ^70 for a pest controller to deal with the animal.
John Bryant, who is an animal welfare consultant, explained why he couldn't release the squirrel: "Where he went wrong was failing to get advice before he started. The Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 lists animals, birds and plants which it is an offence to release into the environment once it has been captured. It may seem ridiculous that you can't release a squirrel once you've caught one, even though there are 3 million of them in the UK. But a Grey Squirrel is an American species not a British Species and is in the same category as Japanese Knot Weed. These laws were brought in to stop people from bringing animals into the country from all over the world and releasing them when they could cause problems, as the grey squirrel in this case has."
The Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) says that it is not illegal to kill a Grey Squirrel, but the species is protected by the Wild Mammals (Protection) Act 1996 which makes it an offence to cause them any unnecessary suffering, therefore they must be killed humanly.

Ah, so that's the answer: "they must be killed humanly." 

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by JayMac at 00:18, 30th September 2010
 
So a dog with a flick-knife is a big no-no?

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Posted by Tim at 09:08, 30th September 2010
 
The RSPCA is yet another organisation taking a perfectly reasonable law and gold plating it.

The only requirement on the vicar is that he kills the animal humanely.  I didn't imagine for a moment he intended to subject it to any cruelty. 

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Posted by Phil at 09:31, 30th September 2010
 
Presumably a vicar being a vicar, there's options available to him other than killing it humanely.

By divine intervention, for example.

(or with aplogies to bignosemac, an "act of dog")

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Posted by vacman at 13:02, 30th September 2010
 
Is stupid really, grey squirrels have already taken over the countryside so releasing one more back is hardly going to make a difference!

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Posted by inspector_blakey at 20:05, 30th September 2010
 
I know some people in Washington DC who ended up in a very similar situation - they had a possum, classified as vermin, living somewhere it shouldn't have been (I think in their garage or shed), then one day discovered it had managed to get itself trapped in their bin. Forget the exact details but the upshot was they they called the District pest control service who sent a person round. This person apparently ended up telling them with a straight face that it was illegal to release the animal (since it's vermin) but also illegal to kill it, and I think started muttering vague threats about taking action against them for "trapping" the daft animal in the first place!

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Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:31, 15th October 2010
 
From the BBC:

Baby squirrel rescued by gun-dog

An injured red squirrel that was sniffed out by a trained gun-dog is now recovering in Scottish SPCA care.

The seven-week-old squirrel was rescued by the animal welfare charity after a dog walker found him on a forest floor near Auchtermuchty on 10 October.

The springer spaniel, "pointed" to the squirrel, which was struggling to move and his owner picked the squirrel up and carried him home in his hat.

The dog owner then contacted the Scottish SPCA for help. A local Inspector collected the young squirrel and transported him to the charity's wildlife rescue centre in Fife where staff have named him Hamish.

Centre manager Colin Seddon said, "It's likely that Hamish lost his balance while out exploring the trees and landed on the ground. He did have a sore leg when he first came in to us, probably due to the fall, but he seems to be doing much better now. Hamish has started to feed himself so we will keep handling to a minimum from now on. This means that when he's fully fit we can return him to his natural habitat as a truly wild animal with the best chance of survival."

Red squirrels are protected in Scotland, as populations are squeezed out by more dominant grey squirrels.

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Posted by Red Squirrel at 12:10, 15th April 2014
 

Up and about pretty early for me - but where was I?


Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by JayMac at 14:01, 15th April 2014
 
In Cafe Loco, Worcester Foregate Street?

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by Red Squirrel at 14:09, 15th April 2014
 
Didn't think it would take you long, BNM!

OK: What was I sitting on?

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by JayMac at 14:09, 15th April 2014
 
Your tail? 

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Posted by Red Squirrel at 14:43, 15th April 2014
 
Also correct! I can see I'm going to have to get up earlier in the morning!

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Posted by JayMac at 14:59, 15th April 2014
 
I do like that 'District Railway' notice requesting, "PLEASE DO NOT - Relieve the calls of nature from the window". 

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Posted by Red Squirrel at 15:24, 15th April 2014
 
Hmm... rather feebly, I hoped that might act as a big of a red herring!

Caf^ Loco would be a perfect location for a remake of Brief Encounter, I reckon.

Anyway it was nice to be up and about in the Land of the Lower Quads this morning. I am all for modernisation, don't get me wrong, but there's something about the clunk of a signal board and the tinkle of a bell that just seems... right, somehow.

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Posted by JayMac at 16:05, 15th April 2014
 
Hmm... rather feebly, I hoped that might act as a big of a red herring!

The big giveaway for me was the London Midland Class 172 seen through the windows.

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Posted by Red Squirrel at 16:11, 15th April 2014
 
And there was me thinking it was doing a good job of hiding the running-in boards!

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Posted by chuffed at 16:36, 15th April 2014
 
And there was I, thinking of that famous/infamous squirrel from Springwatch a while back....that rather grabbed all the attention in the background 

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Posted by Red Squirrel at 00:00, 18th April 2014
 
Out and about again: Anyone know where I was this time?


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Posted by stuving at 01:25, 18th April 2014
 
Bristol Airport Western Apron Extension (work site entrance).

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Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 01:36, 18th April 2014
 
Eh??  Where's the railway level crossing in that particular site?? 

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Posted by stuving at 07:34, 18th April 2014
 
Well, now it's not late at night, it's obviously not Bristol Airport!
It's across the north-west chord at Filton. What Volker Fitzpatrick are doing there, I have no idea, nor how anyone would get there to enter the site that way.

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Posted by stuving at 07:46, 18th April 2014
 
... it must be for the Filton Triangle (aka Stoke Gifford) IEP depot, or its access roads.

(adds) ... and so it is; and this is the site entrance. Site access is from the A38, across the north-west chord and "quadrant", under the Filton-Patchway line, and into the big triangle where the depot goes.

I can see why it's not most in lists of in rail improvements - it's nothing to do with Network Rail. Agility/Hitachi are building it, and their customers will be TOCs (and/or DfT).  That still doesn't explain why Volker Fitzpatrick don't list it as one of their projects, but I guess that's their business.

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Posted by Red Squirrel at 07:49, 18th April 2014
 
stuving is correct.

Essentially it is the start of the access road to the Stoke Gifford IEP depot - or will be. Can anyone confirm whether Volker Fitzpatrick are involved in constructing this?

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Posted by stuving at 09:35, 18th April 2014
 
stuving is correct.

Essentially it is the start of the access road to the Stoke Gifford IEP depot - or will be. Can anyone confirm whether Volker Fitzpatrick are involved in constructing this?
Sorry - missed your post (new page) while finishing mine. VP themselves seem a bit coy about it, but they certainly are the division of the orange army involved. For example they are the main interlocutors at liaison meetings with the locals, though that's named the
Hitachi Residents Liaison Group

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Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:26, 23rd April 2014
 
With a nod towards one of our members on the Coffee Shop forum - from the BBC:

Norfolk red squirrel 'supermum' stuns Pensthorpe wardens


Tortoiseshell (right) has given birth to three kittens in her latest litter

A red squirrel at a conservation centre in Norfolk has stunned wardens by producing her 48th kitten in six years, despite having lost her first partner.

The seven-year-old, part of the East Anglian Red Squirrel Group (EARSG) at Pensthorpe, has given birth to three kittens in her first litter of 2014.

Wardens feared the squirrel, know as Tortoiseshell, would never breed again when her partner died two years ago.

Chrissie Kelley from EARSG said she is a "wonder-mum" doing a "fantastic job".


The kittens first venture from the drey after six to seven weeks

Tortoiseshell and her former partner Tweedledum were considered one of the most successful breeding pairs in the Pensthorpe Conservation Trust's history.

When he died in 2012 there was concern she might never breed again.

Her latest litter, which is beginning to venture from the drey, has two males and one female.

Ms Kelley, the trust's head of species management, said: "Tortoiseshell is simply a 'wonder-mum' of the squirrel world. She's been a consistently good breeder and is a fantastic mother to litter upon litter of her young. At seven years old she's doing a fantastic job - we're thrilled that she's managed to breed once again after losing her first partner. Red squirrels only survive in a handful of locations in the UK, which is why we're so fortunate to have successful breeding pairs here."

Tortoiseshell and her new partner Bryn are one of two active breeding pairs at Pensthorpe.

Janet Wickens, of the Red Squirrel Survival Trust, said the high number of kittens showed the mother was "obviously not stressed and enjoying life".

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Posted by Red Squirrel at 19:38, 23rd April 2014
 
Bit of a babe though, that Tortoiseshell...

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Posted by Cynthia at 20:56, 23rd April 2014
 
Oh, that is just so cute.  Call me a sentimental ol' soul, but I do love the day to end with a happy fluffy bunny story - or in this case, an equally happy, fluffy squirrel.  And in Norfolk, too.  Bootiful.

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Posted by trainer at 22:18, 23rd April 2014
 
Call me a sentimental ol' soul...

Alright then...You're a sentimental ol' soul.


 

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Posted by Cynthia at 21:39, 24th April 2014
 
Call me a sentimental ol' soul...

Alright then...You're a sentimental ol' soul.


 
Mmm, well, I asked for that. didn't I?!

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Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:15, 24th April 2014
 
I, too, am rather sentimental about the little furry people: that's partly why I posted this topic. 

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Posted by JayMac at 03:10, 25th April 2014
 
Continuing the theme from the OP. Another station caf^. But where?



I would also say, "Where's James?" but that's a bit obvious. 

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Posted by Cynthia at 20:48, 25th April 2014
 
I, too, am rather sentimental about the little furry people: that's partly why I posted this topic. 
And there was me thinking we were talking about squirrels!

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Posted by bobm at 22:58, 25th April 2014
 
I, too, am rather sentimental about the little furry people: that's partly why I posted this topic. 

What about these furry people then?.... again from the BBC

Swindon water voles to be released in Hampshire river

The endangered mammals have been taken to a breeder in Devon and will be released in the River Meon in Hampshire in the summer


More than 60 endangered water voles captured on canals in Swindon are to be released into a river in Hampshire.

Keystone Ecology, under licence from Natural England, trapped voles on the Wiltshire and Berkshire Canal and at Studley ahead of bank rebuilding work.

The voles were taken to a breeder in Devon and will be released into Hampshire's River Meon this summer.

Sarah Jackson, from Keystone, said no suitable sites were available nearby, making live capture "the last option".

The water vole is one of Britain's fastest-declining mammals but according to Ms Jackson, there are "too many" on the Wichelstowe stretch of canal in Swindon.

"There are lots of water voles in Wichelstowe and in the bad weather this winter, there were burrows popping up everywhere," she said.

"On a 560m (1,840ft) section of canal, we assumed a population of around 45 to 50 voles and caught around 40 animals - which is a decent number."

'Large scale reintroduction'
 

More than 100 traps baited with apple were set up along both banks of the Swindon canal at the beginning of April.

In weeks, 40 voles were captured, along with 20 more on an old section of canal running through Studley Grange.

 More than 100 traps baited with apple were set up along both banks of the canal in Swindon at the beginning of April
"All the animals have been taken to purpose-built holding facilities in Devon," said Ms Jackson.

"It's not ideal to transport them quite so far away but they are being incorporated into a large-scale reintroduction project for the species."

The voles, along with hundreds of others from across the UK, are being reintroduced into the Meon Valley in Hampshire, where the mammal is considered "locally extinct".

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Posted by Red Squirrel at 08:59, 28th April 2014
 
Just spotted him!

We may need more clues: Is this on a heritage line?

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Posted by JayMac at 15:39, 28th April 2014
 
Just spotted him!

We may need more clues: Is this on a heritage line?

No, but there is one close by.

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Posted by brooklea at 21:39, 28th April 2014
 
Is it the cafe located in the old signalbox at Totnes?

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Posted by JayMac at 21:53, 28th April 2014
 
Is it the cafe located in the old signalbox at Totnes?

Correct.

One has to get up very early to beat you, brooklea! 

A couple more pictures of the Caf^ in the old signal box at Totnes:




And one of the exterior:


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Posted by Red Squirrel at 22:23, 28th April 2014
 
Well that had me foxed (geddit?)

How about this one?


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Posted by Red Squirrel at 23:27, 2nd May 2014
 
Well... I thought FT, N might have taken a punt at this one!

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Posted by JayMac at 23:29, 2nd May 2014
 
Ooo, is it somewhere on the proposed route of Bristol's Bust Rabid Trans*it?

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Posted by Red Squirrel at 10:26, 6th May 2014
 
It IS!

Would it help if I panned out a bit?


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Posted by grahame at 11:37, 6th May 2014
 
Looks like a footbridge across the tidal course of the River Avon that's parallelish to (and to the south of) the feeder canal / Floating Harbour.

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Posted by Red Squirrel at 12:05, 6th May 2014
 
Much more than a footbridge, and not parallel to the Feeder...

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Posted by grahame at 12:11, 6th May 2014
 
Much more than a footbridge, and not parallel to the Feeder...

Oh - Ashton Avenue Bridge!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashton_Avenue_Bridge

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Posted by Red Squirrel at 12:50, 6th May 2014
 
That's the one!

Possibly the only redeeming feature of the BRT scheme is that this bridge, Grade II listed and currently at risk, will be thoroughly repaired.

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Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:51, 6th May 2014
 
Possibly the only redeeming feature of the BRT scheme is that this bridge, Grade II listed and currently at risk, will be thoroughly repaired.

Definitely the only redeeming feature ... 

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Posted by Red Squirrel at 22:06, 9th May 2014
 
How about this one:


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Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:32, 9th May 2014
 
Well, it looks to be an ideal habitat for a squirrel - but I haven't a clue where it is! 

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Posted by Red Squirrel at 13:26, 10th May 2014
 
A clue: Looks like a bridge, but it's actually a tunnel...

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Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:50, 10th May 2014
 
Hmm.

'A disused railway tunnel somewhere' still leaves a fair few possibilities.  (I'm assuming it's an old railway tunnel, not a canal tunnel, by the way). 

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Posted by Red Squirrel at 20:16, 10th May 2014
 
It is a railway tunnel, in Bristol...

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Posted by grahame at 20:19, 10th May 2014
 
'A disused railway tunnel somewhere' still leaves a fair few possibilities.

595 on the forgotten relics database
http://www.forgottenrelics.co.uk/tunnels/database/index.html

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Posted by TonyK at 20:24, 10th May 2014
 
Well... I thought FT, N might have taken a punt at this one!

Sorry I'm late! Ashton Avenue Bridge it is, a shadow of its former glory, and soon to be the only improvement in a sh*tstorm of vandalism between Bemmy Bridge and Whitchurch Lane, as an excuse to build new roads.

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Posted by Red Squirrel at 21:45, 10th May 2014
 
Red faces all round if you can't work out where it is...

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Posted by JayMac at 21:29, 12th May 2014
 
I now know the answer to the latest picture posted by Sciurus Vulgaris having been told it from the horse's (or rather, squirrel's) mouth.

Kicking myself as well because I considered posting what would have been the correct answer. I didn't, simply because I could find nothing online to confirm my suspicions.

I'll leave it to Red Squirrel to give any more clues should he feel it necessary.

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Posted by TonyK at 21:38, 12th May 2014
 
I now know the answer to the latest picture posted by Sciurus Vulgaris having been told it from the horse's (or rather, squirrel's) mouth.

Kicking myself as well because I considered posting what would have been the correct answer. I didn't, simply because I could find nothing online to confirm my suspicions.

I'll leave it to Red Squirrel to give any more clues should he feel it necessary.

Moi non plus. Ihave even photographed the same scene myself, albeit some years back. Nice to meet the bushy tailed creature himself tonight! As well as bobm and BNM.

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Posted by Puffing Billy at 17:27, 13th May 2014
 
I did see one this morning, as it happens. He was sat on the platform with his little suitcase, clasping his ticket in his paws, and I said to myself "Squirrel Going on a Summer Holiday".

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Posted by Red Squirrel at 19:32, 13th May 2014
 
I'm still trying to think of a suitably crypt-ic clue...

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Posted by grahame at 19:42, 13th May 2014
 
I'm still trying to think of a suitably crypt-ic clue...

http://www.bristolfloatingharbour.org.uk/harbour-trails/heritage-trails/railway-route/

"Below the railings here can be seen the eastern mouth of the railway tunnel underneath St Mary^s churchyard"

Purely from the logic of the clue - the tunnel on the harbour railway that used to link towards Temple Meads?

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Posted by chuffed at 06:27, 14th May 2014
 
Let's all hope he didn't fall over a Cliff !

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Posted by JayMac at 06:28, 14th May 2014
 
Or perhaps a cliffe. 

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Posted by Red Squirrel at 08:56, 14th May 2014
 
I'm still trying to think of a suitably crypt-ic clue...

http://www.bristolfloatingharbour.org.uk/harbour-trails/heritage-trails/railway-route/

"Below the railings here can be seen the eastern mouth of the railway tunnel underneath St Mary^s churchyard"

Purely from the logic of the clue - the tunnel on the harbour railway that used to link towards Temple Meads?

That'll be the one. Well done sir.

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Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:12, 22nd September 2014
 
From the Western Daily Press:

Hugh Fearnley-Whttingstall adds fresh squirrel to the menu

Television chef Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall has added fresh grey squirrel braised in a tomato and red wine sauce to the menu of his Devon restaurant.

The unusual dish appears on the River Cottage Canteen menu in Plymouth as the food world is still reeling from the horsemeat scandal reports the Daily Mail.

"It will be interesting to see how the guests react to it, because it is nice for us to offer something different,' said front of house manager Marie Mitchell.

Mr Fearnley-Whittingstall believes in promoting wild food from sustainable source.

Would you eat squirrel?

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Posted by Red Squirrel at 20:25, 22nd September 2014
 
I wonder how many takers Mr Fearnley-Whittingstall would get it he called it by its proper name: American Tree Rat.

The fewer, the better, say I.

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Posted by JayMac at 20:30, 22nd September 2014
 
I've had squirrel in Bristol. Slightly sweet taste, somewhere between lamb and duck.

Squirrel burger from a deli in St Nicholas Market. Not been there recently, but they had squirrel on the menu way back in 2010.

HFW has also had squirrel on the menu of his River Cottage Canteen in Whiteladies Road, Bristol since it opened in early 2013.

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Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:36, 22nd September 2014
 
Hmm.   I rather think we need to distinguish between the flavours of red squirrel (Sciurus vulgaris) and grey squirrel (Sciurus carolinensis) here. 

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Posted by JayMac at 20:45, 22nd September 2014
 
Anyone killing and eating red squirrel would be in a lot trouble. Protected species.

Everyone can do their bit in protecting the red squirrel, by eating the grey ones. 

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Posted by TonyK at 22:45, 22nd September 2014
 
Anyone killing and eating red squirrel would be in a lot trouble. Protected species.

Everyone can do their bit in protecting the red squirrel, by eating the grey ones. 

I have been active in conservation of both species. Pickling works best for greys, whereas light smoking over hickory suffices for the sweeter and more tender red.

That aside, it is illegal under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 to release a grey into the wild after trapping it DEFRA's guidelines prohibit drowning as inhumane, favouring shooting in the cage by a competent gunman (not that dodgy guy with the car with the tinted windows, rumoured to have an Uzi in the garden shed), or that old classic, the blow on the head, delivered after letting the squirrel "escape" into a sack. Lethal injection is off for the moment, because of controversy over the drug mix, lack of supplies, and the effect on the flavour.

I have seen a red squirrel only once since I was a child, and that was in a park in Prague, where I also saw a black squirrel. The latter is now causing concern in some parts of mainland Europe.

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 11:55, 21st October 2014
 
From the BBC:

Prince of Wales orders grey squirrel cull on estate


Prince Charles has ordered a cull of grey squirrels on Duchy of Cornwall land

The Prince of Wales has ordered a cull of grey squirrels on the Duchy of Cornwall estate in an attempt to protect the indigenous red variety.

The estate will employ "humane and lawful" methods to control the grey population.

Grey squirrels carry a poxvirus which is deadly to the red species. There are thought to be approximately 2.5 million grey squirrels in Britain compared to an estimated 140,000 red squirrels.

A spokesman for Prince Charles said: "The red squirrel is a most cherished and iconic national species, and, as patron of the Red Squirrel Survival Trust, The Prince of Wales keenly supports all efforts to conserve and promote their diminishing numbers. Where appropriate, this includes the humane and lawful control of grey squirrels as well as other measures to enhance the natural habitat of reds across the Duchy of Cornwall estate, in accordance with established estate management practices."

The Forestry Commission said grey squirrels were "extremely destructive" in woodlands and have a "major impact" on conservation, biodiversity and sustainability.

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by TonyK at 17:40, 21st October 2014
 
I'm with His Royal Highness on this one. The humane fashion of removing them that I have witnessed in the past involves a long spindly pole, used to poke at the drey in the trees, and a shotgun, deployed in the traditional manner. It can cause some minor short-term damage to the tree in question, but certainly causes major long-term damage to the arboreal offender.

I heard a recipe that involved pressure cooking the beast in Hereford cider (I'm sure Somerset's own can be used also), then making a pie involving the squirrel meat, some of the cooking liquor, wild mushrooms, and a suet pastry. It was on Radio 4, and smelled delicious.

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by The Tall Controller at 20:13, 21st October 2014
 
Looks like Squiggle's days are numbered......

(Station squirrel at Bodmin Parkway!)

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by JayMac at 21:39, 21st October 2014
 
Semi-serious suggestion here. Bring back the Tufty Club and refocus it on Red Squirrel conservation.

If we can teach them to cross the road safely, I'm sure we could teach them self defence against the yankee interlopers. Maybe even arm them so they can help in the extirpation of Sciurus carolinensis.

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by bobm at 22:16, 21st October 2014
 
I still have my Tufty Club badge... not that that means much as you can buy the same for 99p on eBay!

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by TonyK at 22:26, 21st October 2014
 
I still have my Tufty Club badge... not that that means much as you can buy the same for 99p on eBay!

I refused to join any club that would have me as a member.

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by Red Squirrel at 08:53, 22nd October 2014
 
I still have my Tufty Club badge... not that that means much as you can buy the same for 99p on eBay!

I refused to join any club that would have me as a member.

So you're a Marxist, eh? 

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by TonyK at 10:00, 22nd October 2014
 

So you're a Marxist, eh? 

And a Thatcherite, when I've got my cider head on!

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by Red Squirrel at 10:22, 22nd October 2014
 

So you're a Marxist, eh? 

And a Thatcherite, when I've got my cider head on!

I presume you appreciate I mean Groucho rather than Karl...

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by TonyK at 16:06, 22nd October 2014
 

I presume you appreciate I mean Groucho rather than Karl...

I thought my amended signature would have confirmed that!

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by Red Squirrel at 16:17, 22nd October 2014
 
Right, well two can play at that game!

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:32, 22nd October 2014
 
An interesting discussion may arise from a comparison between a verbal contract (that is, one generally expressed in written words) and an oral contract (that is, one using spoken words rather than written words).  Both are apparently enforceable.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_contract 

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by grahame at 16:38, 22nd October 2014
 
An interesting discussion may arise from a comparison between a verbal contract (that is, one generally expressed in written words) and an oral contract (that is, one using spoken words rather than written words). 

I'm told I have a speech impediment - leaving out my arse (or is that r-s) and as such I read that as a verbal contact (which to me is a posh modern term for "argument" or "conversation") and oral contact (a post modern term for either "bite" or "kiss").  Thank goodness we're in the lighter side where I can post in a jovial manner about my initial misreading!

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:53, 22nd October 2014
 
This topic has covered a lot of ground since leaving Worcester Foregate Street ... 

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by Red Squirrel at 11:18, 23rd October 2014
 
Well, to wrench this vaguely back in the direction of the OP: Where was I last night? 


Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by JayMac at 13:32, 23rd October 2014
 
Looks like a red Squirrel was to be seen at Reading.

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by Red Squirrel at 15:58, 23rd October 2014
 
Indeed. it wasn't meant to be much of a challenge; I just thought the Upper Concourse looked particularly impressive - but then it was the first chance I've had to look at it properly!

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 00:17, 24th October 2014
 
That's quite understandable: the red squirrel is more usually seen at or around ground or lower vegetation level - the grey squirrel is generally to be seen showing off in the higher branches.

Where, according to FT,N!, the most appropriate response is to deploy a shotgun in the traditional manner. 

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 01:51, 24th October 2014
 
In view of the clear interest in this particular topic, I'm adding a poll to measure opinion. 

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by JayMac at 02:00, 24th October 2014
 
Vote cast.

Although disappointed that there was no option: 'Eat Grey, spare Red.' 

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by Red Squirrel at 09:16, 24th October 2014
 
Vote cast.

Although disappointed that there was no option: 'Eat Grey, spare Red.' 

Aw, shucks!

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by Red Squirrel at 21:41, 28th October 2014
 
Meanwhile - where was that squirrel last Sunday?

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by JayMac at 21:51, 28th October 2014
 
Squirrel's not travelled far from the location that started this topic.

Round the bend to Worcester Shrub Hill.

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by Red Squirrel at 21:54, 28th October 2014
 
Tis true. Must try harder!

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:10, 28th October 2014
 
We have enjoyed some great humour and lively discussion on the subject of squirrels, on this railway forum ( ) - so I've now taken the opportunity to move and merge all such previous posts here, in this definitive topic on the subject. 

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:41, 15th March 2015
 
From the BBC:

Project launched to up Gwynedd's red squirrel numbers


There are now more than 700 red squirrels on Anglesey

Conservationists are working to boost red squirrel numbers in north Wales.

There were fewer than 40 adult red squirrels on Anglesey 18 years ago but now, largely down to a major cull of grey squirrels, numbers have grown to more than 700.

Community groups on Anglesey will now advise residents in Gwynedd on ways to improve woodland habitats, erect nest boxes and monitor populations.

Anglesey has the largest single population of red squirrels in Wales.

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:42, 21st April 2015
 
From the BBC:

Ambulance called for dead Epping Forest squirrel

An ambulance service has urged people to think before they dial 999 after they received a call about a squirrel injured in a "hit-and-run".

The caller told the 999 handler how the animal had broken its neck after the accident in the Epping Forest area.

At first, the East of England Ambulance Service call handler assumes the victim is a person and seeks to confirm if an ambulance is needed. But it then emerged the victim was in fact a squirrel - which was dead.

Gary Morgan, eastern regional head of emergency operations centres, said: "We prioritise all life-threatening calls to get the quickest possible response. However, that response can be affected if our call handlers and front-line staff are dealing with inappropriate 999 calls."

 

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by Rhydgaled at 09:27, 22nd April 2015
 
We need fewer (if any) Grey Squirrels, but you may not need a shotgun. Apparently, culling them doesn't even work very well, their populations recover quickly. A better approach, it is claimed, is to scare the grey squirrels into leaving, using pine martens. Sounds a bit too good to be true to me, but if it works...

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by chrisr_75 at 15:19, 16th July 2015
 


Slightly tenuous FGW link, but the story made me smile. I do hope it was not the Coffee Shop's own resident squirrel?!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-33541502

A "drunk" squirrel has caused hundreds of pounds of damage at a private members' club.

The secretary of Honeybourne Railway Club said he originally thought someone had broken into the premises, near Evesham in Worcestershire.

The floor was covered in beer and glasses and bottles smashed, Sam Boulter said.

Mr Boulter, 62, said he then saw a squirrel "staggering around" after coming out from behind a box of crisps.

'Turned on the taps'

He added: "There were bottles scattered around, money scattered around and he had obviously run across the bar's pumps and managed to turn on the Caffrey's tap.

"He must have flung himself on the handle and drank some as he was staggering around all over the place and moving a bit slowly.

"I've never seen a drunk squirrel before. He was sozzled and looked a bit worse for wear, shall we say."

Mr Boulter, who estimated he lost about ^300 in the incident, eventually caught the squirrel in a waste paper bin and released it out of the window.

Re: Squirrels - red or grey, on the railways or otherwise: merged topic
Posted by BerkshireBugsy at 18:51, 16th July 2015
 
He must have been nuts

 
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