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27.7.2025 (Sunday) 23:00 - All running AOK
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Re: Road and Rail sharing a bridge
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [363643/30503/52]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 22:04, 27th July 2025
 
Also on the Ribble Steam Railway in Preston. Until recently, oil tank wagons from Network Rail ran over the swing bridge.

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Re: Road and Rail sharing a bridge
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [363642/30503/52]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:51, 27th July 2025
 
Try doing that on the Royal Albert Bridge. 


Re: School trip coach involved in a collision, Wheddon Cross, Somerset 17/07/2025
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [363638/30461/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:23, 27th July 2025
 
I have now locked this topic, to avoid any further speculation.

Chris from Nailsea. 

Re: School trip coach involved in a collision, Wheddon Cross, Somerset 17/07/2025
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [363637/30461/5]
Posted by JayMac at 21:20, 27th July 2025
 
Were there any suspicion of what you've speculated broadgage then police would've announced an arrest by now. Samples would've been taken as soon as practicable after the incident. Regardless of the condition of the driver. Consent for taking samples is not needed in cases where a driver is incapacitated.

Re: The variety that is rail travel.
In "The Lighter Side" [363636/30464/30]
Posted by grahame at 21:18, 27th July 2025
 
Coming back to complete
17 - Arbroath, Scotland
21 - Melk, Austria
25 - London Liverpool Street, England

Re: School trip coach involved in a collision, Wheddon Cross, Somerset 17/07/2025
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [363633/30461/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:15, 27th July 2025
Already liked by TaplowGreen, grahame, Timmer, Oxonhutch
 
I'm stepping in as an Admin here, just to emphasize that any speculation should be avoided.

The absence of any comment from the various authorities involved in the investigation in this early stage should not be interpreted as a suggestion that anything untoward has occurred.

Please, do not speculate, here or elsewhere: the facts will be made available, in due course, and any speculation may affect the outcome of any legal case.

Chris from Nailsea. 


Road and Rail sharing a bridge
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [363632/30503/52]
Posted by grahame at 21:12, 27th July 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
An example of a very rare practise from Sweden - I believe it was done at Connel Ferry in the past, and there was something similar at the avalanche shelter on the Kyle one - but it requires considerable precautions, is slow and only words in the most extreme of cases

The train driver has got out, checked the bridge, and pushed the button to lower the barriers ...



... before the train crosses the bridge.



It then stops on the other side to let the passengers off to have a look ... 





... and see the road traffic that was held coming over.



And then the passenger go onto the bridge to take a look themselves ...
... with the train manager taking souvenir pictures for the tourists








Re: Seagulls, particularly in Cornwall - ongoing discussion
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [363630/29073/31]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 21:00, 27th July 2025
 
I know of someone who shoots gulls, despite this being illegal in most circumstances.
Apparently, in the dark, they look just like rabbits.

It's perhaps somewhat worrying that a shotgun licence has been granted to someone who's unable to tell the difference between a rabbit & a seagull.

Re: School trip coach involved in a collision, Wheddon Cross, Somerset 17/07/2025
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [363629/30461/5]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 20:57, 27th July 2025
 
I fear that the driver may have taken drink or drugs.
After any serious traffic accident it is the norm to test for alcohol, cann1bis, and coc1ane. If the result of such tests are negative/clear it is the norm to announce this. Something like "the driver was tested for drugs and alcohol, and the results were negative"

The absence of any such statement might suggest a certain eventuality.

Whilst sudden illness is a possibility, this is generally announced, something like "it is feared that the driver may have suffered a medical episode" Again the absence of any such statement may suggest a similar eventuality.

Perhaps best not to speculate along those lines. I suspect all possibilities are being investigated.

Re: School trip coach involved in a collision, Wheddon Cross, Somerset 17/07/2025
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [363628/30461/5]
Posted by broadgage at 20:41, 27th July 2025
 
I fear that the driver may have taken drink or drugs.
After any serious traffic accident it is the norm to test for alcohol, cann1bis, and coc1ane. If the result of such tests are negative/clear it is the norm to announce this. Something like "the driver was tested for drugs and alcohol, and the results were negative"

The absence of any such statement might suggest a certain eventuality.

Whilst sudden illness is a possibility, this is generally announced, something like "it is feared that the driver may have suffered a medical episode" Again the absence of any such statement may suggest a similar eventuality.

Re: Seagulls, particularly in Cornwall - ongoing discussion
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [363626/29073/31]
Posted by broadgage at 20:31, 27th July 2025
 
I know of someone who shoots gulls, despite this being illegal in most circumstances.
Apparently, in the dark, they look just like rabbits.

Several reported killed in German train derailment - 27 July 2025
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [363625/30501/52]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:29, 27th July 2025
 
From the BBC:



Several people have been killed after a passenger train derailed in south-west Germany, German media report.

Police told German news agency dpa that at least three people were also injured in the crash near Riedlingen near Stuttgart in the south-west. Reports say there had been a storm in the area shortly before.

Around 100 people were onboard the train when at least two carriages derailed in a forested area around 18:10 local time (17:10 BST), dpa reported.

German Chancellor Freidrich Merz said he "mourn[ed] the victims" and offered his "deepest sympathy" to their families in a post on X.

He said he was in close contact with the interior and transport ministers, and has requested that they provide the emergency services with all the support they need.

Images of the crash show carriages turned on their sides and heavy emergency service presence. Fallen trees can also be seen at the scene.

Reports say the train was travelling on a 90 km (55 mile) route between Sigmaringen and Ulm.


Re: New night routes and earlier starts for city's buses - Bristol, from 31 Aug 2025
In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [363624/30499/21]
Posted by Noggin at 20:07, 27th July 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, Mark A
 
Great news. Now if they could just tweak the timetable so the 2, 73 and 376 don't all come down Wells Rd at the same time in the mornings, then I would be very happy indeed.

MOVED: Pensford viaduct
In "Railway History and related topics" [363623/30500/55]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:03, 27th July 2025

New night routes and earlier starts for city's buses - Bristol, from 31 Aug 2025
In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [363622/30499/21]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:33, 27th July 2025
 
From the BBC:



A number of changes have been announced to bus routes in Bristol, including the city's first ever 24-hour service.

First Bus said it was also adding earlier journeys onto some routes and extending the length of others to improve its network.

The operator said it was also boosting services between the University of Bristol and the University of the West of England, the city centre and student residences.

The changes will come in from 31 August, when the m1 metrobus service will operate 24 hours a day, seven days a week, with a new half-hourly overnight service designed "to keep pace with the needs of our vibrant night-time economy", First Bus said.

The M1 metrobus operates between Cribbs Causeway and Hengrove Park.

The 39 and 1 will run overnight services from Monday to Saturday, with the 2/2a, 4, 5, 6, 73 and 74 operating overnight on Fridays and Saturdays.

Among the routes being extended are the 16, which will now run from Fishponds to Whitchurch via Temple Meads creating a new link between the south and east of the city, and the 43, which is being rerouted to include Temple Meads Station.

The 1, 24, 41, 72, 73 and 74 will start earlier on week days, First Bus said, to better serve those working early shifts.

George Burton, head of network for First Bus in the West of England, said: "These changes are designed to support people who live, work and study in the city and to keep pace with the needs of our vibrant night-time economy."  He thanked Bristol City Council and the West of England Combined Authority for their support for the improvements.

Passengers are advised to check time tables before travelling when the changes come into force. More information about changes to services can be found on the First Bus website.


Re: HS2 - Government proposals, alternative routes and general discussion
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [363621/5138/51]
Posted by Mark A at 18:28, 27th July 2025
 
A link to a thread on Bluesky that puts out feelers re. HS2 phase 2a...

Mark

https://bsky.app/profile/roadscholar.bsky.social/post/3luxcviohgc2g

Re: Canal has 80 tonnes of duckweed removed - Stourport Basin, July 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [363620/30496/51]
Posted by Mark A at 17:55, 27th July 2025
 
80 tonnes is impressive ! Does the removed material have any use ?


Pesky carbon atom, but it would be good to trial-feed it to a farmer's methane-gas-producing-kit of the sort that's hooked up to a generator perhaps.

Ah: https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2013AGUFM.B31A0367A/abstract

Mark

Sunday service and connections, Swedish Style
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [363619/30498/52]
Posted by grahame at 16:50, 27th July 2025
 
The Lulea to Gallivare train arrived at Boden on time at 17:20, where I was joining it.  It was due to carry on at 17:25. However, the 17:05 from Umea was running about 25 minutes late and the Gallivare train was held to maintin the connection - we left at around 17:31. It's a pretty busy 2 carriage train with the majority of passengers through from Lulea towards Gallivare, but with a significant volume of transfers from Umea and probably beyond.

Both trains were scheduled to use the same platform at Boden, but due to the delayed arrival from Umea the train from Lulea was diverted to the other side of the same platform making for an easy connection, and this change was advertised well in advance.  Easy to do with four tracks with platform faces on them. 

Passengers did not appear to be put out by the changes - I saw no signs of concern at the few minutes delay, nor any signs of people scrambily around to make the change.   And although it's a Sunday afternoon here, there are no cancellations or short runs - full service operating.

Re: Samaritans to close more than 100 branches
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [363618/30487/31]
Posted by broadgage at 16:16, 27th July 2025
 
I presume that more people are seeking telephone help from the Samaritans, rather than visiting in person.


I'm not sure it was - ever - very much in person.. However, the branch network as I understand it is like little call centres where the volunteers who take some very difficult calls can be mutually supportive.  It takes a special person to man phone lines for calls like this and they need their network.   

I presumed that telephone calls for help were handled centrally, looks as though I was wrong in this. Thanks for the information.

Re: Canal has 80 tonnes of duckweed removed - Stourport Basin, July 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [363617/30496/51]
Posted by broadgage at 16:10, 27th July 2025
 
I seem to recall an accident in which a light aircraft crashed into a duckweed covered lake. The pilot believed that it was a nice flat field, and a suitable place for a forced landing.

Re: School trip coach involved in a collision, Wheddon Cross, Somerset 17/07/2025
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [363616/30461/5]
Posted by grahame at 16:05, 27th July 2025
 
This incident hit me hard as I’d just got home from taking a school group of 60-65 passengers to Longleat on the day it happened. I’ve never had an incident like this effect me emotionally previously.

Something that’s stood out to me in all of the news reports. There has been No mention of the driver’s  condition that I have seen.

From Sky News on 18th July - but I have seen nothing since

The child, who hasn't yet been named, died yesterday afternoon while the driver remains in a stable condition in hospital.

And it is stated elsewhere that he will give evidence when the full inquest opens. 

Re: Canal has 80 tonnes of duckweed removed - Stourport Basin, July 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [363615/30496/51]
Posted by broadgage at 16:04, 27th July 2025
 
80 tonnes is impressive ! Does the removed material have any use ?
Green manure.
Rot it and use as compost.
feed it wet to pigs or other livestock.
Dry it and use for winter cattle feed.
Dry it and use as fuel.

Any chance of natural control measures ? introduce Canada geese, shoot and eat some of the geese. Or presumably ducks, also good to eat.



 
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