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Re: Belmond Britannic Explorer
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [365055/30661/47]
Posted by chuffed at 00:19, 2nd September 2025
 
No Chris....that would only apply if you were in Cornwall and having a Cornish pastry (sic).

Re: Court punishments short of prison to include driving bans
In "Your rights and redress" [365054/30622/6]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:35, 1st September 2025
 
Do many criminals think that they're going to get caught? Statistics on arrests, convictions and meaningful sentencing could make reassuring reading for those considering a crime.

Bearing in mind the number of people caught driving while disqualified I am sure this will be highly effective.

I rather think that's the weak link in your line of reasoning, broadgage. 

Re: Court punishments short of prison to include driving bans
In "Your rights and redress" [365053/30622/6]
Posted by broadgage at 23:22, 1st September 2025
 
Elsewhere on these forums, I spoken in favour of small, lightweight, and speed limited cars, known in France as VSPs.
In areas without suitable public transport, perhaps criminals should be restricted to such vehicles? To some usually young and male drivers, being restricted to 27 MPH and that in a small and lightweight vehicle would be almost as bad as a complete driving ban. It would however permit travel to work or education.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35210572

Re: Scotland scraps peak rail fares - will the rest of the UK follow? (Sep 2025)
In "Fare's Fair" [365052/30668/4]
Posted by broadgage at 22:52, 1st September 2025
 
I would support higher fares for peak travel, except for very short local journeys.

Providing peak capacity is expensive, and in my view, those who travel in the peaks should contribute to these costs. Having provided capacity, the costs of using this capacity in the off peak are limited.
Therefore off peak fares could reasonably be significantly lower.

I have previously suggested a greatly simplified fares structure, with only three different fares for any journey.
PEAK FARE-- payable for trains that are reasonably expected to be very busy.
SUPER BARGAIN-- payable for trains expected to be very little used, mainly very early morning or late night services.
OFF PEAK-- applies to trains not falling into the above.

Re: Coffee shop - which search engines find us, and which do you use?
In "News, Help and Assistance" [365049/30603/29]
Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 21:31, 1st September 2025
 
A late nomination for Kagi, which I've been using happily for a couple of years now. It's like Google used to be before it decided it was cleverer than you...

Re: Seagulls: particularly in Bath, Cornwall and Minehead - ongoing discussion
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [365047/29073/31]
Posted by JayMac at 21:20, 1st September 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
Elsewhere, seagulls doing impressions of humans. Here's Tommy Pooper:

Re: Scotland scraps peak rail fares - will the rest of the UK follow? (Sep 2025)
In "Fare's Fair" [365046/30668/4]
Posted by Hafren at 21:19, 1st September 2025
Already liked by Mark A, broadgage
 
Two examples:

(1) Evening trains out of Cardiff are often very busy. But I think it's just as much leisure travellers as commuters. That was always the case to an extent - there was a 4pm 'first peak' that was a mix of early-finishers and shoppers etc. But I get the impression that the composition of the overall peak has shifted a bit between work and leisure travellers. Probably not crowded enough to make it worth pricing people off them - often less busy after a few stops. (E.g. 1751 Swanline - has standing pax from CDF, but by Bridgend has plenty of seats available.)

(2) Evening peak out of Paddington often feels quite lightly-loaded. Note I'm mainly familiar with longer-distance journeys; locals may differ! Also I'll mainly be travelling on days where commuter load may be lighter e.g. it's often a Friday or in the holidays if I'm making a long journey. I sometimes just miss the off-peak and use a complex split (typically involving Didcot, which narrows options a bit) to make the peak fare palatable, although it's still much more than I'd like to pay! And it turns out I sort of like doing it this way; the trains I just miss are often busy, but there are some nice options in the peak that are (IMX) quite lightly loaded. Very much a case of people being priced out for no good reason - and with the side effect of making first & last off-peak trains irritatingly busy!

I do wonder if the BBC misses the point when saying peak fares are about managing loading. I'd have thought the business case would be extracting more revenue from business travellers who can bear a higher fare. Which is why I think some sort of morning peak fare is perhaps beneficial for the railway, but evening peaks just add unnecessary complexity. Perhaps the way to offset the loss would be some sort of improved first class offering (where appropriate) which can extract that revenue in an 'optional' rather than 'pricing-out' way. It could be said that TfW and Chiltern are doing this.

Re: Seagulls: particularly in Bath, Cornwall and Minehead - ongoing discussion
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [365045/29073/31]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:16, 1st September 2025
 
Yes, that's right, apparently: from the BBC.

The young lad should still be urgently advised not to travel on to Minehead. Lest he be met by Earl, 'a neighbour's cat' there, at least.

CfN. 

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - merged posts
In "Across the West" [365044/29177/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:57, 1st September 2025
 
Funnily enough ... it's been generally broad sunshine, here in Nailsea. 

Re: Seagulls: particularly in Bath, Cornwall and Minehead - ongoing discussion
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [365043/29073/31]
Posted by ChrisB at 20:55, 1st September 2025
 
I thought Seagull Boy was the judge this year?

Re: Scotland scraps peak rail fares - will the rest of the UK follow? (Sep 2025)
In "Fare's Fair" [365042/30668/4]
Posted by Mark A at 20:46, 1st September 2025
 
From the BBC:


**snip**
"Clearly, the rush hour trains are already packed. And if you remove the disincentive to travel, it would mean more would want to travel on those trains," said Bruce Williamson from campaign group Railfuture.
(BBC News article continues)


'Packed weekday peak trains' ... a bit of an overgeneralisation and has been for some time - and now, has a fragrant whiff, yes?

Mark


Re: Weather updates, from across our area - merged posts
In "Across the West" [365041/29177/26]
Posted by grahame at 20:24, 1st September 2025
Already liked by PrestburyRoad
 
The last few days have been ... a relief.

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - merged posts
In "Across the West" [365040/29177/26]
Posted by JayMac at 20:19, 1st September 2025
 
I prefer the cooler temperatures we've had this past week. Reducing electricity costs not needing the air conditioner on in my bedroom.

As for rain, I drove through a biblical downpour on the M5 in Gloucestershire this morning. Standing water everywhere. Despite there being only moderate traffic we all slowed to around 30 mph. No one risked driving any faster.

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - merged posts
In "Across the West" [365039/29177/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:08, 1st September 2025
 
From BBC Weather:

Summer 2025 confirmed as UK's hottest on record

The Met Office has confirmed that summer 2025 is officially the hottest on record for the United Kingdom.

Provisional statistics show that the mean temperature across the country - which includes overnight lows as well as daytime highs - was 16.10C (60.98F).

This is 1.51C (2.72F) above the long-term average and well ahead of 2018, the previous warmest summer, which had a mean temperature of 15.76C (60.37F).

It is in line with evidence that summers are getting hotter and drier because of climate change.

Met Office climate scientists have found that a summer as hot or hotter than 2025 is now 70 times more likely than it would have been in a "natural" climate, with no human-induced greenhouse gas emissions.

2025 has pushed the famous summer of 1976 out of the UK top-five, meaning the five hottest summers have all occurred since 2000.

The highest temperature of the summer was 35.8C (96.4F), recorded at Faversham, Kent on 1 July.

This may seem relatively modest compared with some of the exceptional highs of previous years, including the record-breaking 40.3C (104.5F) recorded in July 2022.

However what is notable about this summer is how long-lasting and widespread the heat has been - with temperatures widely meeting heatwave criteria on four separate occasions.

The heat started early with a June heatwave which brought highs above 33C (91F) for the summer solstice.

The mercury then climbed again later in the month with Wimbledon seeing its hottest start to the tournament on record.

A brief cooler spell in early July was followed by a third heatwave which brought Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales their hottest weather of the year.

A fourth heatwave in August brought temperatures of 33.4C (92.1F) in parts of England, while 31.6C (88.9F) at Charterhall in the Borders, was Scotland's highest August temperature since 2003.

The warmth was often accompanied by blue skies with sunshine amounts above average across most of the UK.


(BBC Weather article continues)


Personally, I enjoy the warmer weather, but I do worry about my daughter's generation. I am age 66, she is age 28. There are a lot more 'global warming' implications in there.


Re: Train delayed 'due to people trying to hang flags' - Market Harborough, Aug 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [365038/30646/51]
Posted by JayMac at 20:03, 1st September 2025
 

To my mind the act of raising such flags in analogous to dogs marking their territory

All national flags, or just our own?

Well, one doesn't do territorial pissing with someone else's piss.

Re: Train delayed 'due to people trying to hang flags' - Market Harborough, Aug 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [365036/30646/51]
Posted by ChrisB at 19:26, 1st September 2025
 
So when one of these flags attached to aluminium lamp posts comes crashing down in the high winds of Autumn,on to a car or a bus, who will be held responsible?

Or worse, blown off (detached) from their fixers & blown across a vehicle's windscreen or even onto the railway if close?

Re: Closure - Bexley, permanent from Saturday 6th September 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [365035/30669/51]
Posted by ChrisB at 19:22, 1st September 2025
 
By way of explanation, I think the quote needs this bit too

The subway supports both passenger and heavy freight services through the area, and engineers warned that repairing it would be highly complex, disruptive and costly. Passengers will instead use a new footbridge and lifts, opened in 2024 as part of a £6m investment to make the station fully step-free.

Re: Belmond Britannic Explorer
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [365034/30661/47]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:21, 1st September 2025
 

The train is now enroute from London Victoria to Haverfordwest ...


I'm sorry: I initially misread that as 'en croute' ... perhaps wishful thinking.


Re: Scotland scraps peak rail fares - will the rest of the UK follow? (Sep 2025)
In "Fare's Fair" [365033/30668/4]
Posted by grahame at 19:08, 1st September 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, Mark A
 
From my inbox



I note that all the examples are middle distance ones ... perhaps the old peak fare was embarrassing.


Closure - Bexley, permanent from Saturday 6th September 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [365032/30669/51]
Posted by grahame at 19:01, 1st September 2025
 
From my London

The pedestrian subway at Bexley railway station is to be closed permanently next week over safety fears. Southeastern Railway said the underpass, which runs beneath the tracks, would shut from Saturday 6 September following safety checks that revealed long-term risks to passengers and the railway above.

Scotland scraps peak rail fares - will the rest of the UK follow? (Sep 2025)
In "Fare's Fair" [365031/30668/4]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:49, 1st September 2025
 
From the BBC:


Train passengers no longer have to pay higher prices for peak time tickets on ScotRail, raising the question over whether the rest of the UK could follow suit.

While some passengers told the BBC they would welcome the prospect of cheaper tickets, experts are divided over whether it could push prices up overall or result in overcrowded carriages.

The peak/off-peak system is designed to discourage passengers from getting on busier trains, by making it more expensive to travel during the commuter rush before 9am and between 5pm and 7pm.

However, the pandemic working from home and rail usage has not yet returned to pre-Covid levels so peak travel times are less busy than they used to be.

David Ross, chief operating officer at ScotRail - which is owned by the Scottish government - told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that the shift meant it could scrap peak charges as "there's plenty of capacity for people to travel with us".

Unlike the Scottish system, English railways are run by a mix of publicly-owned firms and private contractors which the government has pledged to nationalise as their contracts end.

Ticket prices are set by the Department for Transport (DfT) so if the government wanted to scrap peak fares across England it could.

London North Eastern Railway (LNER), which is run by the government, is experimenting with the removal of off-peak charges across parts of its network, external - with the pilot due to end on 7 September.

The DfT has not said whether or not it would try removing off-peak charges across the whole English network, but it has said it wants to reform the way tickets are priced as it nationalises the system.

"We know the current labyrinth of fares and prices can be confusing, which is why we want to make it easier for passengers to find the right ticket for their journey," a transport spokesperson said.

Meanwhile, Transport for Wales (TfW) and Translink operate the Welsh and Northern Irish railways and are run by their devolved governments.

The BBC has approached both TfW and Translink for comment.

ScotRail's move has reduced prices - an anytime day return ticket from Glasgow to Edinburgh has gone from £32.60 to £16.80. ScotRail's Ross said this means "passenger journeys will increase and over time it will pay for itself", but rail experts are divided.

If passenger numbers remain the same ticket prices may need to go up overall to make up for the lost revenue, some have warned. The other issue is what scrapping off-peak would mean for some already overcrowded routes.

"Clearly, the rush hour trains are already packed. And if you remove the disincentive to travel, it would mean more would want to travel on those trains," said Bruce Williamson from campaign group Railfuture. As such, he said any removal of peak charges would need to come alongside investment in increasing capacity of the rail network - something which would cost the government money.


(BBC News article continues)


Re: Belmond Britannic Explorer
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [365030/30661/47]
Posted by bobm at 18:24, 1st September 2025
 
The train is now enroute from London Victoria to Haverfordwest at the start of a three night circular tour taking in south and north Wales.

https://www.belmond.com/trains/europe/uk/britannic-explorer/journeys?choice=results&passengers=2&route=1767

Re: Train passengers to be tracked to stop ticket fraud
In "Fare's Fair" [365029/30660/4]
Posted by PhilWakely at 18:11, 1st September 2025
 
.... The writer (Oliver Gill) clearly regarded this as extending the benefits of London-style tap-in tap-out to the Midlands and North, but with improvements - mainly calculating your best fare for your journey. ....

Best fare for the journey? Walk up Standard Single between A and B?

Re: Solent Tunnel, between Hampshire and the Isle of Wight
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [365028/30657/28]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:07, 1st September 2025
 
I think you lot are just winding me up, now. 

Re: Solent Tunnel, between Hampshire and the Isle of Wight
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [365027/30657/28]
Posted by johnneyw at 17:35, 1st September 2025
Already liked by JayMac, grahame
 
If one end of the tunnel started at Portsmouth/Southsea it would technically be Portsea Island and not the mainland surely? 

I'll get me high viz coat!

Re: Finn the crossing keeper.
In "The Lighter Side" [365026/30659/30]
Posted by JayMac at 17:31, 1st September 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, Timmer, Western Pathfinder
 
Highley.

Correct.

(TL;DR Cricket bad, SVR good)

I spent the day at the Severn Valley Railway this last Sunday when I should have been at the One Day Cup, Worcs v Somerset at New Road, Worcester.

The previous Friday I had checked the WCCC website and their fixture visitor info webpage had said dogs would be allowed at this fixture. I phoned the ground too and a receptionist checked with someone higher up and also confirmed that yes, dogs would be allowed. So I bought my ticket, booked a hotel for the night before and the night after the match, and planned my travel.

On Saturday evening after driving up to Strensham Services and checking in to my hotel, I looked at the WCCC website again. The match visitor info page now said dogs NOT allowed for this fixture. On Sunday morning before checking out I called the ground. No answer.

I drove to the ground, parked up nearby, left Finn in the car and went to reception. They confirmed, no dogs. I spoke with the same lady who'd given me the incorrect information two days previously. There were fulsome apologies, but little real explanation beyond "competition rules" which appeared to me to be buck passing to the ECB. I hope to get a fuller explanation in reply to my complaint email. They also initially wouldn't refund my ticket cost saying incorrectly information given by the website and over the phone wasn't a valid reason to refund. That's despite me having paid extra for ticket protection. There must have been a change of heart by the end of the day as a refund was processed.

I'll be looking for some sort of gesture of goodwill from WCCC to recompense my costs for travel and accommodation. If they don't play ball(!) I'll consider a Consumer Rights small claim.

In the end the Severn Valley Railway was a good substitute to seeing Somerset get thrashed. And there was protection from the heavy rain that fell mid afternoon.

I may post a collection of pics and vids from the day on the SVR. I got haulage behind a Class 20, a Class 50, a GWR Pannier Tank and GWR 4900 Class 4930 Hagley Hall.

 
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