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| Plymouth In "Railway History and related topics" [370136/31330/55] Posted by Mark A at 12:49, 26th December 2025 | ![]() |
Looking at Plymouth and thinking that a lot of it developed quite late in the day and also, generally, 'How did this work'? Long distance Southern services - did they all start from Friary, tour the city and call at North Road and then Devonport before their onward journey? At... Catdown Bridge on the approach to Sutton Pool, did the Plymouth and Dartmoor Railway fade away and see its track lifted before the GWR reused the alignment and laid track once more? And at Laira, is that a flat crossing of the first on the scene P&DR across the GWR's line into Millbay Station?
Oh, and Albert Road crosses a good tunnel-over-tunnel intersection with little separation (with, for good measure a pub, the 'Railway Inn' sitting by the intersection and the location of surface buildings there very much constrained by the infrastructure beneath) . There's little indication of how the disused tunnel beneath the in-use railway is accessed for inspection. Perhaps there's an access between the two.
Mark
Plymouth on NLS Maps, two 25" to the mile sheets side by side...
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15.5&lat=50.38584&lon=-4.17952&layers=168&right=178
| Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025 In "Across the West" [370135/30953/26] Posted by GBM at 12:47, 26th December 2025 | ![]() |
Too easy to speculate here
| Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2025 In "TransWilts line" [370134/29726/18] Posted by grahame at 12:47, 26th December 2025 | ![]() |
Even on Boxing Day, this sad thread continues ...
Sat, 27 December 16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:05
Sat, 27 December 17:36 Swindon to Westbury due 18:18
27/12/25 17:36 Swindon to Westbury due 18:18 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Sat, 27 December 17:36 Swindon to Westbury due 18:18
27/12/25 17:36 Swindon to Westbury due 18:18 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
| Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025 In "Across the West" [370133/30953/26] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 12:39, 26th December 2025 | ![]() |
A sad news update, from the BBC:
Search called off for two swimmers missing at sea

Two men remain missing after a Christmas Day swim at Budleigh Salterton, Devon
A coastguard search operation for two men who went missing in the sea during a Christmas Day swim has been called off.
Emergency services were called to Budleigh Salterton, in Devon, shortly after 10:25 GMT on Thursday.
While some people were brought back to shore, two men in their 40s and 60s could not be located.
The coastguard stopped searching the water at 17:00, but police said on-shore enquiries continued into the evening. The men's families have been informed.
While there is no official weather warning in place on Boxing Day, some sea swims have been cancelled and police in Devon and Cornwall have urged people not to get into the water.
Residents of the small town have described the incident as "shocking" and "tragic".
"I've never quite witnessed anything like this," said John Smyley, who lives close to the beach. He described it as a "particularly cold day" in the town and said the sea "looked ferocious".
"It's very shocking and it's sad - particularly on Christmas Day," he added.
...
Det Supt Hayley Costar from Devon and Cornwall Police described the incident as "truly tragic" in a statement on Thursday. "Our thoughts remain firmly with the families and friends of the two men who are currently missing and to all who may have witnessed and been impacted by the incident," she added.
In a post on social media, Budleigh Salterton Baptist Church said its prayers are with the men's families and friends as well as emergency services. It said: "We are sad to hear the devastating news of the two men missing after yesterday's swim. If you would like to pray or talk to someone at this difficult time, please don't hesitate to get in touch."

Two men remain missing after a Christmas Day swim at Budleigh Salterton, Devon
A coastguard search operation for two men who went missing in the sea during a Christmas Day swim has been called off.
Emergency services were called to Budleigh Salterton, in Devon, shortly after 10:25 GMT on Thursday.
While some people were brought back to shore, two men in their 40s and 60s could not be located.
The coastguard stopped searching the water at 17:00, but police said on-shore enquiries continued into the evening. The men's families have been informed.
While there is no official weather warning in place on Boxing Day, some sea swims have been cancelled and police in Devon and Cornwall have urged people not to get into the water.
Residents of the small town have described the incident as "shocking" and "tragic".
"I've never quite witnessed anything like this," said John Smyley, who lives close to the beach. He described it as a "particularly cold day" in the town and said the sea "looked ferocious".
"It's very shocking and it's sad - particularly on Christmas Day," he added.
...
Det Supt Hayley Costar from Devon and Cornwall Police described the incident as "truly tragic" in a statement on Thursday. "Our thoughts remain firmly with the families and friends of the two men who are currently missing and to all who may have witnessed and been impacted by the incident," she added.
In a post on social media, Budleigh Salterton Baptist Church said its prayers are with the men's families and friends as well as emergency services. It said: "We are sad to hear the devastating news of the two men missing after yesterday's swim. If you would like to pray or talk to someone at this difficult time, please don't hesitate to get in touch."
When will Waverley be in our area in 2026? From the Waverley Excursions page
... let me show you what Waverley looks like (and an excuse for sharing some pictures)

Hmm.
From another topic:I love ferries. CfN.

My wife was a serving Merchant Navy officer, on the 'Queen Elizabeth II', before I met her and led her back on to dry land.
Somewhere, I have pictures of the 'engine room' on the QE2, where you could have parked a whole fleet of London buses, without even touching the sides.
(My wife of over 30 years now was in the Engineers team: I therefore had onboard unrestricted 'staff' access to those deepest bowels of the ship - as well as up to the Bridge, actually.)
More anecdotes are available. CfN.
I visited the then new QE2 just before her maiden voyage from Southampton with a few from our radio course.
Taken around by the QE2 chief radio officer, amazing to see.
Also confirmed my view that I didn't want to serve on passenger ships, but chose BP Tankers!
My first few ships had Droxford engines, which frequently caught fire, so we had to stop, let the engines cool down, and proceed onwards.
Thank you CfN/grahame for the engine room pictures; happy memories.
Hopefully with May sailings from Cornwall we might be able to sail this year.
| Re: How far from the station is the rail replacement bus stop? In "Across the West" [370131/31324/26] Posted by CyclingSid at 11:50, 26th December 2025 | ![]() |
Christs Hospital. Was on an RRB from Horsham and was dropped in what appeared to be the middle of nowhere. Fortunately I was not immediately concerned about the station, just doing one half of the Downs Link on the bike.
As in this case, there sometimes appears to be an assumption that people know where the station is. In this case I didn't, in relation to the local road system.
| Re: OTD - 23rd January (1947) - Start of the big freeze In "Railway History and related topics" [370130/25922/55] Posted by CyclingSid at 11:43, 26th December 2025 Already liked by GBM | ![]() |
I was living on Hayling Island, and we had a sunken road between farmers fields. I woke up to what was the top of a double decker Southdown bus visible between between the fields. Southdown policy was that crews were not allowed to leave an in-service bus. Fortunately the driver and conductor lived locally and their wives carried tea cans (remember the time before Thermos flaks were widely available) to them across the fields. I believe it was mid morning before the company said they could leave the bus.
The bigger risk nowadays is more likely to be a Q-Day, when a cyber attack takes out the majority of modern infrastructure in the country.
| Re: How far from the station is the rail replacement bus stop? In "Across the West" [370129/31324/26] Posted by Ralph Ayres at 10:46, 26th December 2025 | ![]() |
Dovey Junction is a mile along the footpath to the A487 - the nearest road.
You'd reach the station along that road unless arriving by helicopter/parachute, so the bus stopping there does make sense! Replacement buses serving the centre of a town/village rather than the station some distance from anywhere also makes sense, provided it's clearly signposted, along with warnings on journey planners.| Re: Why can't we have trains at Christmas? In "Railway History and related topics" [370128/27018/55] Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:48, 26th December 2025 Already liked by grahame, GBM | ![]() |
Posted today onto the Southern Electric Facebook Page
60 years ago far fewer people had access to a car.
I can see an argument for Boxing Day services, pretty much everything else is up and running and there are a lot of sporting events/sales etc, but let's be honest, we can't rely on the railway providing the advertised weekend services at the best of times, so expecting them to do it at Christmas? No chance. Although the Unions would no doubt see it as a potential pot of gold for their members.
I think Christmas Day services would largely be carting fresh air around, can't see the need for them. People who do travel are largely looking for door to door (or airport) services at this time of year and all forms of public transport are pretty thin on the ground, hence the car is a better option for most.
| Re: OTD - 23rd January (1947) - Start of the big freeze In "Railway History and related topics" [370127/25922/55] Posted by grahame at 07:19, 26th December 2025 | ![]() |
For 26th December 1962, adding OTD for the big freeze of 1962/3 which is within my living memory
From Wikipedia
Throughout the Christmas period, the Scandinavian high collapsed, but a new high formed near Iceland, bringing northerly winds. Significant snowfall occurred on the 26 and 27 December as the air mass moved south, the snow arriving in Shropshire around lunchtime on the 26th and parts of Southern England late that same day.
By the end of the month, there were snow drifts 8 feet (2.4 m) deep in Kent and 15 feet (4.6 m) deep in the west.
By the end of the month, there were snow drifts 8 feet (2.4 m) deep in Kent and 15 feet (4.6 m) deep in the west.
I remember my mother's school friend Hilda Rowley arriving back from India - via a ship and staying with us in Orpington before she headed back home up north. We were cold anyway and had a problem sourcing any more coal to keep the house warmer. The only thing we could obtain was some stuff called "Glowco" and we came to understand why - it glowed rather than burned and we had some of the dreadfully near-useless stuff clogging our bunkers of what felt like years!
OTD log - replaced:1226 2019 ~ Every HST Livery? https://transportdesigned.com/pictures-every-single-hst-livery-ever/ hstyatt
| Re: Why can't we have trains at Christmas? In "Railway History and related topics" [370126/27018/55] Posted by grahame at 20:48, 25th December 2025 | ![]() |
Posted today onto the Southern Electric Facebook Page
| Re: New timetables - but from where to where? AQ25 - 15th In "The Lighter Side" [370125/31264/30] Posted by grahame at 19:28, 25th December 2025 | ![]() |
Complete solution:
1. Paddington to Oxford and north Cotswolds
2. Bradford-on-Avon, Bath, Bristol and Filton Abbey Wood
3. Maidenhead to Marlow
4. Glasgow to Oban, and also onwars through Bridge of Orchy
5. Yeovil Junction to Pen Mill
6. Newquay to Par
7. Leeds to Goole
8. to Southminster
9. to Helston
When will Waverley be in our area in 2026? From the Waverley Excursions page
... let me show you what Waverley looks like (and an excuse for sharing some pictures)

Hmm.
From another topic:I love ferries. CfN.

My wife was a serving Merchant Navy officer, on the 'Queen Elizabeth II', before I met her and led her back on to dry land.
Somewhere, I have pictures of the 'engine room' on the QE2, where you could have parked a whole fleet of London buses, without even touching the sides.
(My wife of over 30 years now was in the Engineers team: I therefore had onboard unrestricted 'staff' access to those deepest bowels of the ship - as well as up to the Bridge, actually.)
More anecdotes are available. CfN.
| Re: Carlisle and Settle - AQ23 In "The Lighter Side" [370123/31323/30] Posted by grahame at 19:02, 25th December 2025 | ![]() |
Oh, for goodness' sake. 
After much more poring over my paper remnants of grahame's original itineraries, I conclude that image 24 is, as close as you can get to it, platform 6 in Luxembourg's main railway station.
I shall now go to lie down, with a cool Taunton towel across my fevered brow.

After much more poring over my paper remnants of grahame's original itineraries, I conclude that image 24 is, as close as you can get to it, platform 6 in Luxembourg's main railway station.
I shall now go to lie down, with a cool Taunton towel across my fevered brow.

It is, isn't it. Of course, everyone forgets Luxembourg, as if it's tiny like Lichtenstein or Andorra. I'd actually just been looking there, but to see if the hillier bits of scenery and buildings might fit no. 29. So far it was a draw with a less mountainous bit of Austria, which must now be the best bet. Specific location definitely "somewhere" - or perhaps "nowhere (middle of)" fits better.
Yes, 24 is Luxembourg at the main station, and 29 is Austria ... further completions of exact places I'll fill in tomorrow.
Luxembourg isn't actually all that small ... all the other micros states would fit in there, but the others it is wedged between are all much bigger.
Members should be thankful that there's a handful of more obscure countries visited without rail interest seen, or in the case of Iceland you've already seen picture of the only exhibition loco from every angle!
| Re: Carlisle and Settle - AQ23 In "The Lighter Side" [370122/31323/30] Posted by stuving at 18:35, 25th December 2025 | ![]() |
Oh, for goodness' sake. 
After much more poring over my paper remnants of grahame's original itineraries, I conclude that image 24 is, as close as you can get to it, platform 6 in Luxembourg's main railway station.
I shall now go to lie down, with a cool Taunton towel across my fevered brow.

After much more poring over my paper remnants of grahame's original itineraries, I conclude that image 24 is, as close as you can get to it, platform 6 in Luxembourg's main railway station.
I shall now go to lie down, with a cool Taunton towel across my fevered brow.

It is, isn't it. Of course, everyone forgets Luxembourg, as if it's tiny like Lichtenstein or Andorra. I'd actually just been looking there, but to see if the hillier bits of scenery and buildings might fit no. 29. So far it was a draw with a less mountainous bit of Austria, which must now be the best bet. Specific location definitely "somewhere" - or perhaps "nowhere (middle of)" fits better.
| Re: How far from the station is the rail replacement bus stop? In "Across the West" [370121/31324/26] Posted by welshman at 18:24, 25th December 2025 | ![]() |
Dovey Junction is a mile along the footpath to the A487 - the nearest road.
| Re: Carlisle and Settle - AQ23 In "The Lighter Side" [370120/31323/30] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:11, 25th December 2025 Already liked by grahame, GBM | ![]() |
Oh, for goodness' sake.

After much more poring over my paper remnants of grahame's original itineraries, I conclude that image 24 is, as close as you can get to it, platform 6 in Luxembourg's main railway station.
I shall now go to lie down, with a cool Taunton towel across my fevered brow.

When will Waverley be in our area in 2026? From the Waverley Excursions page
South West: Friday 22nd – Monday 25th May
Bristol Channel & South West Wales: Wednesday 27th May – Wednesday 17th June
South Coast: Thursday 3rd – Tuesday 22nd September
London & Thames: Wednesday 23rd September – Sunday 11th October
From 11th October 2025 ... let me show you what Waverley looks like (and an excuse for sharing some pictures)



| Re: Carlisle and Settle - AQ23 In "The Lighter Side" [370118/31323/30] Posted by eightonedee at 17:35, 25th December 2025 | ![]() |
Rats! but you are right, now I come to think of it. This part of Rugen is mostly flat (there are some hills and cliffs on the north-east coast, but not near here), and the Rasende Roland runs at a level mostly alongside roads.
So do I consult Wikipedia......
| Re: Carlisle and Settle - AQ23 In "The Lighter Side" [370117/31323/30] Posted by grahame at 17:24, 25th December 2025 | ![]() |
Looking at no.3 again, fortified by a traditional Christmas turkey lunch and a few glasses of sparkling wine, it has clicked!
Small black tank engine, green coaches, it can only be-
Germany, Rugen Island and the Rasende Roland narrow-gauge railway!
If the quiz master requires a location on the line, I might consult my Kompass map to see if it helps....
Small black tank engine, green coaches, it can only be-
Germany, Rugen Island and the Rasende Roland narrow-gauge railway!
If the quiz master requires a location on the line, I might consult my Kompass map to see if it helps....
Right country ... but as I recall the Rugen Island line is through fairly flat countryside and there's no bridge that would be that high above the railway. So it's elsewhere in Germany.
Are there any other stations where the RRB calls only a significant distance away?
Courrour?
Berney Arms doesn't even get a RRB, passengers are told to go to Reedham or Great Yarmouth instead.
I take it that a RRB for Berney Arms would be a Rail Replacement Boat.
| Re: Carlisle and Settle - AQ23 In "The Lighter Side" [370115/31323/30] Posted by eightonedee at 16:47, 25th December 2025 | ![]() |
Looking at no.3 again, fortified by a traditional Christmas turkey lunch and a few glasses of sparkling wine, it has clicked!
Small black tank engine, green coaches, it can only be-
Germany, Rugen Island and the Rasende Roland narrow-gauge railway!
If the quiz master requires a location on the line, I might consult my Kompass map to see if it helps....
| Re: Carlisle and Settle - AQ23 In "The Lighter Side" [370114/31323/30] Posted by grahame at 16:45, 25th December 2025 Already liked by Chris from Nailsea | ![]() |
I concede my even-a-half-point, and I am now starting again to read through paper copies of grahame's itineraries - which he gave me, at the beginning of the year. I am still struggling here.


You need to bear in mind, Chris, that the planned / outlined trip to Istanbul and beyond turned out to be a trip to Narvik and beyond so you can take the early thoughts you have a copy of with a pinch of salt.
| Re: How far from the station is the rail replacement bus stop? In "Across the West" [370113/31324/26] Posted by plymothian at 16:22, 25th December 2025 | ![]() |
Are there any other stations where the RRB calls only a significant distance away?
Courrour?
Berney Arms doesn't even get a RRB, passengers are told to go to Reedham or Great Yarmouth instead.
| Re: Carlisle and Settle - AQ23 In "The Lighter Side" [370112/31323/30] Posted by grahame at 16:01, 25th December 2025 | ![]() |
To my mind 3 and 29 were always going to be hard ones, not being "places". Since Austria is still availble one should be there. 24 is maddening, as it ought to be well-known.
28 might not have been Sweden, since SJ run much of the railway in Norway as well as Sweden. But while the train in 11 is barely visible so no help, there is writing on the hotel in the background. That leads to Bodø, Norway, fitting in with 28 being Sweden.
28 might not have been Sweden, since SJ run much of the railway in Norway as well as Sweden. But while the train in 11 is barely visible so no help, there is writing on the hotel in the background. That leads to Bodø, Norway, fitting in with 28 being Sweden.
Correct for Bodoe, Norway. A big crowd for a tiny train ... and that was the start of an interesting ride.
Here are the three that remain to be identified up to even the country level.
3.

24.

29.

| Re: Carlisle and Settle - AQ23 In "The Lighter Side" [370110/31323/30] Posted by stuving at 13:59, 25th December 2025 | ![]() |
To my mind 3 and 29 were always going to be hard ones, not being "places". Since Austria is still availble one should be there. 24 is maddening, as it ought to be well-known.
28 might not have been Sweden, since SJ run much of the railway in Norway as well as Sweden. But while the train in 11 is barely visible so no help, there is writing on the hotel in the background. That leads to Bodø, Norway, fitting in with 28 being Sweden.
| Re: Carlisle and Settle - AQ23 In "The Lighter Side" [370109/31323/30] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 13:56, 25th December 2025 | ![]() |
I concede my even-a-half-point, and I am now starting again to read through paper copies of grahame's itineraries - which he gave me, at the beginning of the year. I am still struggling here.

| Re: Carlisle and Settle - AQ23 In "The Lighter Side" [370108/31323/30] Posted by grahame at 13:30, 25th December 2025 | ![]() |
Another quick look before being summonsed to do turkey carving duties, I think that the Lithuanian one may be Klapeida.
To help anyone else who dips into this today, most remaining are easy to get to the country (17 Italy, 21 Spain, 25 Switzerland, 28 Sweden), but beyond that it looks like Googling if Christmas TV gets boring this evening!
Thanks Grahame for all your efforts with this years quizes, and Happy Christmas all - that turkey isn't going to carve itself!
To help anyone else who dips into this today, most remaining are easy to get to the country (17 Italy, 21 Spain, 25 Switzerland, 28 Sweden), but beyond that it looks like Googling if Christmas TV gets boring this evening!
Thanks Grahame for all your efforts with this years quizes, and Happy Christmas all - that turkey isn't going to carve itself!
The countries look right - checking. The Lithanian picture is of a train that can be seen in Klaipeda (a lovely place) but wasn't taken there in this case. It was also an example of "How many bicycles can you get on a single carriage train", reminiscent of "how many people can you get in a mini" from my youth!
| Re: Carlisle and Settle - AQ23 In "The Lighter Side" [370107/31323/30] Posted by grahame at 13:27, 25th December 2025 | ![]() |
Oops - I am eating humble pies and have egg on my face; answered CfN too quick and incorrectly. No. 3 is not Czech Republic - no. 26 is, though - as wondered by stuving.
No. 10 is, correctly, identified as a quite large but obscure town in Slovakia.
My apologies for misleading you, folks.
Updated answers so far
1. Lithuania (but where?)
2. Portugal (Regua)
3.
4. Poland (but where?)
5. Belgium (Leuven/Louvain)
6. Latvia (Riga)
7. Slovenia (but where?)
8. Denmark (Tonder)
9. Scotand (Kirkaldy)
10. Slovakia (but where?)
11.
12. Republic of Ireland (Manulla Junction)
13. Hungary (Budapest)
14. Netherlands (but where?)
15. USA (New York)
16. England (York)
17. Italy (but where?)
18. Croatia (Zagreb)
19. Canada (New Brunswick)
20. France (Périgueux)
21. Spain (but where)
22. Estonia (Balti Jaam, Tallinn) - I have few intermediate pictures and, yes, a repeat
23. Finland (Helsinki)
24.
25. Switzerland (but where?)
26. Czech Republic (but where?)
27. Northern Ireland (Belfast / Lanyon Place)
28. Sweden (but where?)
29.
30. Wales (Barry)















