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Re: Mid Cornwall Metro - Newquay, St Austell, Truro & Falmouth
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [375729/27102/25]
Posted by REVUpminster at 18:56, 2nd June 2026
 
Has anyone had any information regarding loadings since the new timetable was introduced? It's very early days, there have been some "teething troubles" and changes will take time to embed but I'm curious about early signs.

With a five hour gap yesterday and the inability of GWR to move a defective train doesn't auger go well. No loadings on no trains.

Re: GWR accused of disrupting Wales-England train links
In "Across the West" [375728/32097/26]
Posted by REVUpminster at 18:51, 2nd June 2026
 
Once GWR is nationalised, will the dispute over revenue be resolved between the Welsh government and English (British) government be resolved. I don't think so.

Re: GWR accused of disrupting Wales-England train links
In "Across the West" [375727/32097/26]
Posted by eXPassenger at 18:03, 2nd June 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
I see an interesting conundrum developing here.  One of the arguments pushing nationalisation is the different fare structures from different operators and the need to use a train run by the TOC whose ticket you hold.  Hopefully GBR will rationalise this and passengers will be able to buy a ticket and use the next train (subject to time of day restrictions).

What will happen if GBR are running routes into Wales together with TfW.  Will there be revenue sharing or will passengers have to check that their ticket matches the train they are catching?

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [375726/31163/26]
Posted by charles_uk at 17:48, 2nd June 2026
 
And just like London buses...

Delays to services between London Paddington and Reading

Due to a fault with the signalling system between London Paddington and Reading trains have to run at reduced speed on some lines towards Reading.

Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed by up to 20 minutes. Disruption is expected until 19:15 02/06.
Customer Advice
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What has happened?
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Some axle counters, part of the signalling system, have stopped working in the Ruscombe area. Axle counters tell the signalling system if a section of track has a train on it. If an axle counter stops working, trains need to stop at the affected signal so that the Driver can speak to the Signaller to confirm if the track ahead is clear.

Re: GWR accused of disrupting Wales-England train links
In "Across the West" [375725/32097/26]
Posted by grahame at 17:12, 2nd June 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
From the BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c794pdy1jgjo

From the article

Great Western Railway said the changes should not be "detrimental to existing services"

Great Western Railway has been accused by the Welsh government of trying to "disrupt" plans for new direct train services between west Wales and Bristol.

Transport for Wales (TfW), which is owned by the Welsh government, wants the services from Milford Haven or Fishguard, in Pembrokeshire, to start before the end of the year.

It hopes to run two-hourly services from Monday to Saturday, with one beginning in Cardiff and the others in the west.

But Great Western Railway (GWR), which already runs Cardiff to Bristol trains, said the proposals would have a "significant effect" on its revenue.

Under the plans, passengers from west Wales could travel straight to Bristol Temple Meads without changing at Cardiff, as they currently need to do.

An interesting argument and position.  GWR has had an almost complete monopoly on South Wales to Bristol (and London) traffic got many years, and the monopoly was made complete when the daily Cross Country service was withdrawn.   

It has been natural to defend that monopoly, and I recall a side conversation with a senior DfT person who involved who indicated there were no plans - but that's a few years back - to change that.  Not an unexpected co-incidence of the DfT with GWR when you consider the same approach taken with the Bristol - West Wiltshire - Salisbury - London Waterloo service.   In both that case, and in a the case of a Bristol to West Wales service, there was and is a demand for a service that doesn't require people to change - at Cardiff, or at Salisbury.

And - yes - it perhaps affects revenue on the core (GWR) services.   But then a monopoly can provide a service that's less than ideal for the passengers, can't it?   If I want to go from Bristol to Carmarthen I have no choice but to changes at Cardiff at present (and maybe at Swansea too).  And I can understand GWR working still with the DfT, still looking to maximise revenue on a monopolistic service without having to complete with a Welsh service which for some sectors of the market would be very welcome.

Interesting to note from https://firstgreatwestern.info/BRI.html?limit=1500&sortby=0 some ticket sales counts
Bristol to Carmarthen - 8,000
Bristol to Swansea - 42,000
Bristol to Neath - 10,000
Bristol to Llanelli - 3,400
Filton Abbey Wood to Swansea - 1,250
All are there and back figures - so 8,000 is 4,000 eastbound and 4,000 westbound


Re: Night Riviera Sleeper train - between Paddington and Penzance - ongoing discussion
In "London to the West" [375724/31911/12]
Posted by 1st fan at 16:09, 2nd June 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
The failed sleeper from last night has now failed on its way up to Reading. Currently dumped in Highbridge loop.

Tonight’s down sleeper likely to be cancelled.
Someone filmed the final rescue, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftmcFzAwkqU watch from 7:58 to see the train actually moving and you don’t want to suffer large amounts of advertising.

GWR accused of disrupting Wales-England train links
In "Across the West" [375723/32097/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 15:49, 2nd June 2026
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From the BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c794pdy1jgjo

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026
In "London to the Cotswolds" [375722/31371/14]
Posted by charles_uk at 15:44, 2nd June 2026
 
Outward run truncated due to this morning's signalling issues in the Slough area, and the return:

15:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 will be started from Great Malvern and terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.

It will no longer call at Hereford, Ledbury, Colwall, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Didcot Parkway, Reading and London Paddington.

This is due to a fault on this train.

Kernow Connect - a possible new electric Okehampton to Bodmin line
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [375721/32014/28]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 14:33, 2nd June 2026
 
Apologies mod(s).
Duplicate/similar post here!
https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=32092.msg375685#msg375685

No problem.

We had two topics, on different boards, discussing the same sheme, so I have moved and merged them here, to avoid confusion.

MOVED: Possible Launceston/Okehampton (- maybe Bodmin) Railway bypass
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [375720/32096/40]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 14:08, 2nd June 2026
 
This topic has been moved to Campaigns for new and improved services and merged with an existing topic there, discussing the same scheme.

https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=32014.msg375676#msg375676

Re: Seven young people sought after assault on Elizabeth Line
In "London to Reading" [375719/32095/7]
Posted by Mark A at 14:07, 2nd June 2026
 
They weren't worried at the time but are probably going to have the opportunity to reflect on that stance. Good clear photos, thanks due to whoever recorded them. Hopefully the BTP can handle photos far more fluidly than they did in *checks notes* 2011, but the  witnessed assault I'm recalling resulted in a conviction too as far as I know.

Mark

Re: Mid Cornwall Metro - Newquay, St Austell, Truro & Falmouth
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [375718/27102/25]
Posted by Mark A at 13:36, 2nd June 2026
Already liked by Western Pathfinder
 
Video from GWR on Newquay's new train service. Striking how the appearance of Newquay's station has transformed, it looked like such a leftover before this work was done.

Mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPjLzRE68dk

Seven young people sought after assault on Elizabeth Line
In "London to Reading" [375717/32095/7]
Posted by Marlburian at 12:14, 2nd June 2026
Already liked by GBM
 
A group of teenagers assaulted multiple passengers during a violent attack.

Images released three weeks after the incident. I don't suppose that the alleged perpetrators cared that they were being video'd. and perhaps they aren't worried about the likely slaps on their wrists should they be located and charged.

Re: New station at North Filton - now named as 'Bristol Brabazon' - ongoing discussion
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [375716/24927/21]
Posted by johnneyw at 11:15, 2nd June 2026
 
Rail Advent has an article regarding the latest at Brabazon with he accessible lift now installed.  There's pictures on the link below.

https://www.railadvent.co.uk/2026/06/installation-progress-made-at-new-bristol-station.html

Re: Why are these people travelling by train?
In "Introductions and chat" [375715/32090/1]
Posted by grahame at 10:58, 2nd June 2026
 
I haven't travelled much overseas recently (well not at all...) but is the provision of information better when things go wrong?

My last couple of trips West Wales to South East England all had issues but it was the lack of information that frustrated me most.

Welllll ... usually but it wasn't this morning.   Quick connection at Jelenice and train manager assured me it would wait ... but it didn't. Basically kills day's plan - going somewhere else now.   Ah - the frustration of a service that only runs every 2 or 3 hours and then this happens!

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [375714/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 10:48, 2nd June 2026
 
And in a bit of comedy timing, whilst all the disruption continues, the regulator ORR has decided to issue a letter to Network Rail Western saying ORR is satisfied with their performance and improvement.

Even includes :
A major area of focus has been the Thames Valley and Network Rail has carried out a high volume of asset interventions concentrating on track, overhead line equipment, axle counters and points.

https://www.orr.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2026-06/2026-06-01-nr-wales-and-western-compliance.pdf

So apparently ORR thinks the interventions are good enough, even though failures are continuing.  Words fail me.

Genuinely couldn't make it up

https://www.railmagazine.com/news/network-rail-improvements-lead-to-end-of-enforcement-action-on-poor-performance

Rothbury Publishing to close
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [375713/32094/49]
Posted by bobm at 10:43, 2nd June 2026
 
Just had this in my email

It is with a heavy heart we have to announce:

Rothbury Publishing is being Discontinued.

Over the last 12 years we have enjoyed working with you and launching new cards, new products and sending out orders on a daily basis.

Sadly since covid those daily orders became more sporadic and whilst we have a core or regular trade buyers and retail customers, but a combination of postage costs and the challenges in retail shops we have seen orders reduce to a level that makes the associated overheads with Rothbury too high.

For those not familiar they have produced a large range of greetings cards on a transport theme using artists' paintings and drawings.  They have been on sale in many heritage railway gift shops across the country.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [375712/31163/26]
Posted by John D at 10:36, 2nd June 2026
Already liked by GBM, TaplowGreen
 
And in a bit of comedy timing, whilst all the disruption continues, the regulator ORR has decided to issue a letter to Network Rail Western saying ORR is satisfied with their performance and improvement.

Even includes :
A major area of focus has been the Thames Valley and Network Rail has carried out a high volume of asset interventions concentrating on track, overhead line equipment, axle counters and points.

https://www.orr.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2026-06/2026-06-01-nr-wales-and-western-compliance.pdf

So apparently ORR thinks the interventions are good enough, even though failures are continuing.  Words fail me.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [375711/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 10:25, 2nd June 2026
 
Disruption pushed out till midday now - last couple of weeks have been shambolic on this line - with so many people relying on the Elizabeth Line thanks to the RMT Tube strike today it makes the situation even worse.

Re: Why are these people travelling by train?
In "Introductions and chat" [375710/32090/1]
Posted by Sixty3Closure at 10:06, 2nd June 2026
 
I haven't travelled much overseas recently (well not at all...) but is the provision of information better when things go wrong?

My last couple of trips West Wales to South East England all had issues but it was the lack of information that frustrated me most.

Re: Why are these people travelling by train?
In "Introductions and chat" [375709/32090/1]
Posted by ChrisB at 10:00, 2nd June 2026
 
In my view, the moving of TOCs from private contractors to public operators is something of a side issue

Yet, completely Political decision. Get it right & it will still pull passengers, regardless

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [375708/31163/26]
Posted by charles_uk at 09:54, 2nd June 2026
 
Cancellations to services between London Paddington and Reading

Due to a fault with the signalling system between London Paddington and Reading some lines are closed.

Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until 10:15 02/06.

There is a fault with the signalling system between Slough and Acton. The signalling system is how trains are kept a safe distance apart and directed onto the various lines along their journey. When there is a fault with the signalling system trains may need to stop at the affected signals so that the Driver can speak to the Signaller to confirm if the track ahead is clear.

The problem affects 2 of the four lines between London Paddington and Reading, so we are having to reduce the train service through the area to avoid congestion.
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Some services between London Paddington and Oxford, and between London Paddington and Cardiff Central, will not run, in either direction.
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Local stopping services between London Paddington and Didcot Parkway/Newbury will only run between Reading and Didcot Parkway/Newbury.
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Most longer distance Intercity services will continue to run between London Paddington and Reading, but may be subject to delay.
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We are working with Network Rail to be able to return to running our normal timetable as soon as possible.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026
In "London to the Cotswolds" [375707/31371/14]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 09:47, 2nd June 2026
 
07:13 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 09:43 will be cancelled.
This is due to a problem in the depot.
Last Updated:02/06/2026 04:27

Real Time Trains shows the empty stock for this working, 3G14 0428 from Stoke Gifford, did not run "at the operators request"

Re: Railways Bill 2025: introducing and designing Great British Railways - general topic
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [375706/31038/40]
Posted by Electric train at 06:08, 2nd June 2026
 
Something in a conversation that Roger Ford was having on X/Twitter earlier caught my eye.

The major saving meant to emerge from the move to GBR is supposed to be the 2% or so in fees being paid to the operators for operating their management contracts.

However, unannounced, but contained within the Railways Bill, is the fact that the rolling stock, being hired by the operators from the ROSCOs - isn't going back to the ROSCOs to be directly hired by GBR - oh no - the stock is being sub-leased by the operators to DfT/GBR.....probably charging them that 2% in admin charges to continue to do this!!

So no real savings either.....unbelievable

Possibly the way the rolling stock financing and leasing contracts were setup, and probably originally agreed by DfT, make it complex and or expensive to change the arrangement.   I would like to think GBR / DfT will be reviewing all these arrangement once the TOC are under public ownership

Re: Poland's controversial 'Highway to Hel' 666 bus revived
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [375705/32093/52]
Posted by infoman at 05:31, 2nd June 2026
 
locally the phone code for Tetbury is 01666

and is Russian country code 007?

Re: Why are these people travelling by train?
In "Introductions and chat" [375704/32090/1]
Posted by grahame at 04:19, 2nd June 2026
 
Need to deal successfully with capacity pinchpoints first.

There are far too many currently which will severely hinder any attempt to encourage travellers

And stop introducing NEW capacity pinch points, such as new and often shorter trains. And ignore the arguments about a new 5 car train being so much better than an HST

The thread asks the question "why are these people travelling by train" and goes on to muse as to whether / why we might be missing such passengers [in the UK].

I have - on last year's trip and on this years' - hit capacity issues; they are not unique to the UK.  The matter of whether such travellers / metrics could more usefully travel by train in the UK is at the heart of the question - the metrics of how the systems could or should support it are a necessary corollary, and that is where provision policy and strategy come into play. 

In my view, the moving of TOCs from private contractors to public operators is something of a side issue - no matter who runs and specifies the thing - and the wider environment around it too, the result depends on providing what people want and will use, and having them know about it and feel and be comfortable using it.

Re: Why are these people travelling by train?
In "Introductions and chat" [375701/32090/1]
Posted by broadgage at 23:45, 1st June 2026
 
Need to deal successfully with capacity pinchpoints first.

There are far too many currently which will severely hinder any attempt to encourage travellers

And stop introducing NEW capacity pinch points, such as new and often shorter trains. And ignore the arguments about a new 5 car train being so much better than an HST

Poland's controversial 'Highway to Hel' 666 bus revived
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [375700/32093/52]
Posted by ChrisB at 21:26, 1st June 2026
 
From the BBC



Coach operator FlixBus has announced the return of the 666 bus service to the Polish seaside resort of Hel.

It resurrects the controversial so-called "Highway to Hel" bus journey formerly run by local company PKS Gdynia.

Religious conservative groups fiercely opposed the "satanic" association of 666 with Hel, so in 2023 the number was changed to 669.

The new 13-hour route run by FlixBus will connect Kraków to Hel, passing through other major Polish regional towns and cities including the capital Warsaw.

FlixBus spokesperson Aleksander Kalenik told the Polish news service TVN24: "The number 666 was deliberately chosen as a marketing communication element, intended to increase the visibility of the connection on the popular holiday route to Hel."

Back in June 2023 a PKS Gdynia spokesperson had told media: "The management board buckled under the weight of letters and requests that were sent to us, maybe not in large numbers, but periodically for many years with a request to change the line number."

One Polish religious group had accused the bus company of "spreading satanism".

The Bible identifies 666 as the "number of the beast" and Hel is just one "l" short of the English word "hell".

Poland is a predominantly Roman Catholic nation, where the Church has traditionally been influential.

Hel is located on the tip of the 22-mile (35km) Hel Peninsula, which juts off the northern coast of Poland in the Gulf of Gdańsk.

Tourists have been drawn to Hel's sandy beaches, ancient architecture and seal sanctuary.

 
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