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Re: Six-hour train services between London and Stirling running with no toilets
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377907/32334/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:39, 7th August 2026
 
Did we?  Please don't encourage Coffee Shop forum member 'broadgage'. 


Re: Six-hour train services between London and Stirling running with no toilets
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377906/32334/51]
Posted by ChrisB at 20:35, 7th August 2026
 
And we thought that GWR had problems with Hitachi sets....

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377905/31359/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 20:34, 7th August 2026
 
Surprisingly, if the GWR app is to be believed, the 17:36 appears to have seats as it approaches Castle Cary.



The preceding 17:03 to Penzance seems to only be congested in first class.

I'd say "if" is doing some phenomenally heavy lifting there!

Six-hour train services between London and Stirling running with no toilets
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377904/32334/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:33, 7th August 2026
 
From the BBC:

Six-hour train services between London and Stirling running with no toilets


Trains have been stopping for longer at stations so passengers can use the toilets on platforms - Image © Alstom/Ian Nightingale

A train operator is running services lasting more than five-and-a-half hours despite having no toilets available on board.

The Lumo trains run on the West Coast Main Line, covering the new 417-mile (671km) route between Stirling and London Euston.

Lumo, which is owned by FirstGroup, first warned about a "fault" with the toilets on a service from Stirling to Crewe on Saturday.  Some services have since been stopping for longer at stations such as Preston to allow passengers to get off and use toilets on platforms.

A Lumo spokesperson said: "We have been experiencing some issues with the reliability of some of our toilet facilities onboard our West Coast services."  They added that they were working closely with rail company Alstom, which refurbished the carriages used by Lumo, to "rectify the issue".

An Alstom spokesperson said: "We recognise that this falls short of the standard fare-paying passengers should expect, particularly on long-distance services.  Working closely with Lumo, we are reviewing the entire fleet position to reduce the risk of repeat failures, improve overnight servicing checks, and ensure toilet availability is restored and maintained wherever possible on the operator's West Coast route."

The 06:11 departure from London Euston on Friday, which was affected, ran with a 58-minute delay and terminated at Motherwell, North Lanarkshire.  Passengers were told their tickets would be accepted on ScotRail services.

Liberal Democrat transport spokesperson Olly Glover posted on social media: "Is Lumo attempting to become the Ryanair of the rails?"

Train operators in Britain are not legally required to provide onboard toilets.

Lumo operates its West Coast services with refurbished Class 222 Meridian trains. These are also used by East Midlands Railway, which has also suffered toilet faults with its fleet.

Lumo also runs services on the East Coast Main Line, connecting London King's Cross with Edinburgh, Glasgow and Falkirk. It operates on an open access basis, meaning it sets its own fares, takes on all revenue risk and receives no taxpayer-funded subsidies. It is not affected by the government's renationalisation of all remaining franchised train services in Britain.


Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377903/31359/18]
Posted by bobm at 20:07, 7th August 2026
 
Surprisingly, if the GWR app is to be believed, the 17:36 appears to have seats as it approaches Castle Cary.



The preceding 17:03 to Penzance seems to only be congested in first class.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377902/31359/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 19:59, 7th August 2026
 
18:37 Westbury to Swindon due 19:21
20:12 Swindon to Westbury due 20:56 will be cancelled.
This is due to a safety inspection of the track.

and

Delays to services between Newbury and Reading
Following a safety inspection of the track between Newbury and Reading the line towards Newbury will be reopened shortly.
Train services running to and from these stations are returning to normal. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.
Customer Advice
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What has happened?
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We have had a report of a defect with the track in the Theale area. Trains may not be able to run over the affected line until it has been inspected or may have to run at reduced speed.

Is it fair to take it that a safety inspection in Berkshire on the Berks and Hants is the case of cancellation of trains in Wiltshire on the Transwilts line?

Maybe not, but in the context of (for example) the 1636 Paddington-Plymouth having already been cancelled due to said track defect, it being a summer Friday and the weekend of Boardmasters the 1736 was undoubtedly rammed and needed to be prioritised via this diversion.

Inconvenient for customers who were planning to travel on either of those cancelled Transwilts services, but in the context of the number of customers impacted, without doubt the lesser of two evils.

Re: Major disruption on railways in northern England after Manchester power failure
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377901/32330/51]
Posted by ChrisB at 19:57, 7th August 2026
 
How long does it take for signals to fail red? Seconds.

It took 90 of those for the backups to kick in. That's too long for all signals just to change again back to what they were before interruption.

Then something else blew which may not directly be owing to the initial power failure & needed investigation.

After all that, all they could do was switch it off & on again & do a full reset. Now all staff & stock is out of place.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377900/31359/18]
Posted by bobm at 19:43, 7th August 2026
 
Another diverted freight 6V70 was briefly checked at Thingley East waiting for 1C91 to reach Bradford Junction.   Fortunately the following 1C28 18:30 London Paddington to Weston-super-Mare was already over 10 minutes late so was not delayed any further at Thingley.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377899/31359/18]
Posted by bobm at 19:34, 7th August 2026
 
Another reason for capacity improvements on the Melksham line.

Congestion at Thingley Junction as trains wait for the single line.

6C57 A freight to Whatley Quarry went onto the single line at 18:43 (booked route)
4W99 A freight from Oxford to Westbury was delayed for around five minutes waiting for the above to clear Bradford Junction (booked to go round the west curve at Reading but diverted)
2O99 The 17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury was 1 minute early at Chippenham but then delayed 11 minutes waiting for the single line (booked route)
1V01 An excursion from London Victoria to Bishop's Lydeard was held up for several minutes behind 2O09 and then headed towards Bristol (diverted from the B&H)
1C91 The 17:36 from London Paddington to Plymouth was delayed for five minutes behind the two above before taking the single line (diverted from the B&H)
1C27 The 18:01 from London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads was stuck in the queue for 11 minutes at Chippenham before going on towards Bath. (booked route)



Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026
In "London to the Cotswolds" [377898/31371/14]
Posted by ChrisB at 19:22, 7th August 2026
 
From Oxford Mail

An update has been issued after passengers faced delays and disruption after a train struck a fallen tree early this morning.

The incident happened near Kingham in the Cotswolds, blocking the Great Western Railway (GWR) route between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill.

GWR said the tree had fallen onto the track and was hit by a train during the Friday morning rush hour, forcing services to run at reduced speed and causing delays of up to 30 minutes.

A GWR spokesperson said: "We are sorry to customers whose journeys were disrupted this morning after a train struck a fallen tree near Kingham, resulting in the temporary closure of the railway while the situation was assessed and made safe.

"Working with Network Rail, we were able to reopen the line as quickly as possible, and services have now returned to normal.[/quote]

Re: Road markings and signs - various errors causing confusion, mirth and some concerns - merged pos
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377897/12302/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:00, 7th August 2026
 
Another item, from the BBC:

Confusion over 'quadruple yellow lines' on street


Residents said the lines look "rubbish" and are a "complete mess" - Image © BBC/Seb Cheer

A council has committed to repainting the road surface of a street after a bungled job left "quadruple" yellow lines visible.

A small section of pothole-covered Markham Crescent in York was resurfaced this week by maintenance crews who also painted double lines on the new surface.  However, just days later another group of council contractors arrived and repainted a longer stretch of yellow lines in a much lighter shade.

Fenella McCarthy, a resident of 20 years, said: "They didn't start where the other lines had finished so we've just got this hotch-potch of lines there and it just seems a lack of co-ordination, a lack of thinking and no common sense."

City of York Council said the lines would be repainted as they did not meet the authority's "high standards".

McCarthy said the lines were "a complete mess" and could confuse visitors to a nearby guesthouse.  "It just seems a complete waste of resources," she added.  "The resurfaced patch is not the only bit with potholes. If you're going to cut the street off and bring all these lorries in, why not do the whole street?"

Robin Dickson lives around the corner on Haxby Road, but Markham Crescent is one of the zones where he can park with a resident's permit.  "It just seems totally ludicrous and disorganised," he said. "To actually turn up, see there are already lines there, and then just go ahead without a thought or check, paint another set anyway is plain bonkers."  He said some patches of road were repaired in the next street along, Markham Street, six months ago and were "still awaiting their yellow lines repainting".

Another family had their car moved by a contractor during the resurfacing, as they were on holiday and were only given one day's notice about the work.

A spokesperson for City of York Council said the work "clearly hasn't been completed to our high standards, something our external contractor accepts.  It has confirmed the work will be redone by the end of this weekend at the latest, after which it will be inspected by our highways team."


In my personal opinion, bearing in mind just how many such examples of bungling / lack of common sense / sheer incompetence have been demonstrated in the course of this topic, any such contractors should be disbarred from bidding for any future Council contract.

CfN.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377896/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 18:26, 7th August 2026
 
18:37 Westbury to Swindon due 19:21
20:12 Swindon to Westbury due 20:56 will be cancelled.
This is due to a safety inspection of the track.

and

Delays to services between Newbury and Reading
Following a safety inspection of the track between Newbury and Reading the line towards Newbury will be reopened shortly.
Train services running to and from these stations are returning to normal. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.
Customer Advice
-
What has happened?
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We have had a report of a defect with the track in the Theale area. Trains may not be able to run over the affected line until it has been inspected or may have to run at reduced speed.

Is it fair to take it that a safety inspection in Berkshire on the Berks and Hants is the case of cancellation of trains in Wiltshire on the Transwilts line?

Re: Michael Portillo - live across the south and west - autumn 2026 and spring 2027
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [377895/32333/49]
Posted by Ralph Ayres at 18:23, 7th August 2026
 
Cor, quite pricey!  There must be some impressive special effects or an orchestra playing while he talks...

Re: Education gap - South West England
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377894/32328/31]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:11, 7th August 2026
 
A related article, from the BBC:

Mums hope school uniform swap will help families

A free school uniform swap has been set up by two mums who want to help stop families from "forking out" on "expensive" clothing.

Bex and Faye created the Tavistock Uniform Swap Shop in Devon where people could donate clothing their children had outgrown along with having a selection of new items as well.  A stall at Tavistock Library was set up on Thursday where they received three "huge boxes" of uniforms from lost property at local schools, as well as half a dozen bags from the community.

Bex said a lot of parents and guardians were "in the same situation" and she and Faye hoped it would help people financially while also stopping clothes being thrown away.

Donations in Tavistock included branded and unbranded jumpers, shirts, skirts, dresses, wet weather clothing, shoes, lunchboxes and trousers.

Bex and Faye, who have been friends for 10 years, said people who visited were "shocked" everything was free and they did not have to make a donation to do a swap.

Bex, who works at a nursery in Tavistock, said: "We are all in the same situation, it doesn't matter if you're working full-time, things are really expensive and if we can save on something like this, then let's do it."

In September, a new law from the Department for Education will be introduced on branded school items in England.  It means parents and guardians will not have to buy more than three branded items, plus a tie for children in secondary school.  The government decided to create the law after it was estimated a quarter of secondary schools still had four or more items on its list last year.

Bex said it was "relief" there was at least a limit on the branded items, but it depended on what items the school or establishment chose.  "I think in the long run, if the cost of living keeps going up, we are going to need to push for there to be less and less uniforms with logos, but it will definitely help," Bex said.

Mum-of-two Faye said the price of uniform depended on the school and what their rules were around branded items, but some school uniforms could set a family back about £60 per child.

(BBC article continues, with illustrations)


Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [377893/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 18:04, 7th August 2026
 
Cancellations to services between Newbury and Reading

Due to a safety inspection of the track between Newbury and Reading the line towards Newbury is closed.

Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026
In "London to the Cotswolds" [377892/31371/14]
Posted by ChrisB at 17:56, 7th August 2026
 
At Kingham

Re: Michael Portillo - live across the south and west - autumn 2026 and spring 2027
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [377891/32333/49]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:49, 7th August 2026
 
Fair enough - provided he doesn't refer to my local railway station as 'Nailsea & Blackwell', as he did in a previous series.   

CfN.


Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026
In "London to the Cotswolds" [377890/31371/14]
Posted by bobm at 17:28, 7th August 2026
 
Believe the first train hit a fallen tree.

Michael Portillo - live across the south and west - autumn 2026 and spring 2027
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [377889/32333/49]
Posted by grahame at 16:31, 7th August 2026
 
https://www.fane.co.uk/michael-portillo

Secretary of State. Traveller. TV superstar. The inimitable Michael Portillo joins us live on stage to share funny, insightful, and poignant stories from his extraordinarily rich and varied life.

The son of a refugee who rose to become one of Britain’s leading politicians and best loved broadcasters, Michael Portillo’s life has been a game of two halves. As a statesman he served under Margaret Thatcher, ran for the leadership of the Conservative Party, and lost his seat in one of the most famous moments in British political history, only to become one of the nation’s favourite broadcasters, sparring with Diane Abbott and Andrew Neil and enthralling millions of us with his travels on the world’s greatest railways.

First in the west (well, almost!) - Oxford, 29th October 2026. to Fareham, 16th March 2027.  Via Truro, Malvern and Salisbury.

Re: ScotRail apology as passengers unable to book tickets in app launch chaos
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377888/32291/51]
Posted by grahame at 16:12, 7th August 2026
 
Prioritisation (at the least) is not a problem unique to Scotrail.   Using our local GWR TVM▸ , start typing in a station name and the first offerings are not necessarily the local ones, nor the ones that most tickets are sold to from the station at which the TVM is located.

Call me old fashioned (or a technophobe) if you wish, but don't IT systems that present you with a list of alternatives as soon as you type in 2,3 or 4 characters cause more problems than if they could be programmed so that they only did so once you finished typing if there were possible alternatives for the station you'd typed in (eg, Green Park Reading or Reading West for Reading)?

I don't object to it predicting ... just wonder at the algorithm.  "DI" at Melksham and I expect Didcot and Dilton Marsh to be top suggestions - and Diss and Dingwall to be further down.  I do NOT recall what else was offered yesterday - I seem to recollect having to put the "L" in before I notices Dilton Marsh.

For long station names ... I REALLY don't want to have to spell the whole thing out, or perhaps to a point of uniqueness.  Having travelled to   Kolobrzeg and Zgogzelec in recent weeks, no way I would even get them right.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026
In "London to the Cotswolds" [377887/31371/14]
Posted by charles_uk at 15:37, 7th August 2026
 
Friday 7 August:

1P06 0516 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington – lost 63 minutes between Honeybourne & Moreton-in-Marsh
1P10 0523 Hereford to London Paddington – diverted via Swindon
1W11 0553 London Paddington to Great Malvern - cancelled between Oxford and Great Malvern due to unknown cause (ZW)
1P12 0643 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington – departed WOS 37 minutes late
2E80 0700 Worcester Shrub Hill to Didcot Parkway – cancelled due to late arrival of an inbound service (YI)
1P14 0713 Great Malvern to London Paddington - cancelled between Reading and London Paddington due to the train operator's request (TB). Departed GMV 99 minutes late
1P18 0856 Great Malvern to London Paddington - cancelled between Great Malvern and Oxford due to unknown cause (ZW)


Re: Interesting "What3Words"
In "The Lighter Side" [377886/32322/30]
Posted by ChrisB at 14:36, 7th August 2026
 
Can be useful for summoning the emergency services.
I can remember when I was working a not insignificant fire at a factory. The person calling the FB gave what she believed to be the post code and the fire tenders turned up at the sorting office in the nearby city.

It is the emergency services that are asking us NOT to use w3w....and if you can access w3w to obtain their 3 words, you can just as easily access Google Maps & retrieve the live location link?

Re: Interesting "What3Words"
In "The Lighter Side" [377885/32322/30]
Posted by JohnM at 13:35, 7th August 2026
Already liked by Richard Fairhurst
 
basically, you quietly stop offering those 3m x 3m squares which have soundalike words. That means you go down to 6m x 6m accuracy at that spot
<pedant (or dim)>6m x 3m?</pedant>

Re: ScotRail apology as passengers unable to book tickets in app launch chaos
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377884/32291/51]
Posted by eightonedee at 13:01, 7th August 2026
 
Prioritisation (at the least) is not a problem unique to Scotrail.   Using our local GWR TVM▸ , start typing in a station name and the first offerings are not necessarily the local ones, nor the ones that most tickets are sold to from the station at which the TVM is located.

Call me old fashioned (or a technophobe) if you wish, but don't IT systems that present you with a list of alternatives as soon as you type in 2,3 or 4 characters cause more problems than if they could be programmed so that they only did so once you finished typing if there were possible alternatives for the station you'd typed in (eg, Green Park Reading or Reading West for Reading)?

Re: Interesting "What3Words"
In "The Lighter Side" [377883/32322/30]
Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 12:59, 7th August 2026
Already liked by JohnM, Mark A
 
There's a whole bunch of issues with what3words and they often get tangled up.

I think at its core it's a decent enough idea, for the reasons Electric train has cited - it's easy to remember and communicate, and accurate enough for most purposes.

There are genuine technical problems with it, chiefly that the inventors didn't do a good enough job of removing 'soundalike' words. I suspect these are probably fixable - basically, you quietly stop offering those 3m x 3m squares which have soundalike words. That means you go down to 6m x 6m accuracy at that spot, which is still probably good enough.

But the real problem is that it's privately owned and copyrighted. Imagine a situation where your address was "11 High Street, Frogtown", but the only way for anyone to find out where that actually was involved paying money to Address Corporation, Inc. That's what3words. Their lawyers repeatedly threaten anyone who attempts to provide an alternative way of working out what3words addresses.

The address algorithm itself was invented and settled back in 2013. The entire work of their company since then has been marketing it. They have spent an eight-figure sum on this and barely recouped anything: w3w's losses are astronomical. The only plausible way forward for the company is to be bought by someone big - Amazon, Google, one of the major couriers - but so far they're not biting.

Up until now their PR strategy has involved giving free access to emergency services and the like, because it's generated lots of good free publicity. But there's no guarantee this will continue. Tying your location to what3words is making a bet that the next owner of the company won't start charging. That's not a bet I'd make.

Re: Major disruption on railways in northern England after Manchester power failure
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377882/32330/51]
Posted by broadgage at 11:35, 7th August 2026
 
Have they not heard of UPS units ?
Such units provide back up power, usually from batteries, without any perceptible break.
Run time is typically a few minutes, with a diesel generator for longer failures, the run time is then only limited by fuel supplies.

I also fail to see why it took so long to change from one DNO supply to an alternative DNO  supply. I would expect changeover within a few seconds.


Re: Interesting "What3Words"
In "The Lighter Side" [377881/32322/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 11:24, 7th August 2026
 

Yes, very good pints are made.


piled.cuddling.throat for example. 

Re: Interesting "What3Words"
In "The Lighter Side" [377880/32322/30]
Posted by Ralph Ayres at 11:04, 7th August 2026
 
I must admit on reflection that an early low-tech version of something like w3w would have made my life somewhat easier 30 or so years ago.  I had to get packages delivered by road to London Underground stations, and certainly in those days quite a few stations had no post code or building number, or even any real presence at street level, just one or more staircases down from the pavement and possibly a decoy former entrance where lifts had been replaced by escalators in a different location.

Very Light Rail being looked at for disused Telford/Ironbridge line.
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [377879/32332/28]
Posted by johnneyw at 10:01, 7th August 2026
 
The below BBC article talks about studies to reopen a disused line using VLR in the Ironbridge and Telford area.  The suggestion of a possible 2030 opening date though does seem ambitious.
Here's the link:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yd9eg2xgeo

Re: Major disruption on railways in northern England after Manchester power failure
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377878/32330/51]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:21, 7th August 2026
 
Continuing today......

BBC News - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cwy0d0wgy4xt
Train delays latest: Passengers facing disruption for second day after power outage - BBC News

 
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