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Re: Bus journeys in west of Scotland to be capped at £2 from Monday
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [379036/32448/5]
Posted by grahame at 22:09, 1st September 2026
 
From the BBC:

Bus fares in the west of Scotland will be capped at £2, First Minister John Swinney has announced.

The move takes effect from Monday morning for journeys in Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Ayrshire, Dunbartonshire, Lanarkshire and Inverclyde.

[snip]

The bus fare announcement is part of an SNP manifesto pledge to cut the cost of bus travel to £2 per single fare for every journey in the country by the end of this parliamentary term.

A cap is already in place in the Highlands and islands. Swinney did not say when it will be extended to the rest of Scotland.


For "West of Scotland" I read "Glasgow Region".   Looks to me that it's not happening in Argyll and Bute, nor Dumfries and Galloway, so that places like Oban, Campbeltown and Stranraer are not covered.

Re: 3rd and final (for now) "Rail related but no trains"
In "The Lighter Side" [379035/32437/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:02, 1st September 2026
 
C12.  Ballymote station, on the Sligo to Dublin line.

Right country ... shame about the town

Well, I ballywell got that one wrong, didn't I? 

I'll try again:

C0.  Mora järnvägsstation, if you'll pardon my possible mispronunciation, from my very schoolboy Swedish.

Re: 3rd and final (for now) "Rail related but no trains"
In "The Lighter Side" [379034/32437/30]
Posted by eightonedee at 21:14, 1st September 2026
 
thanks DR7835

C9-Milan

Re: Andy Burnham has become Prime Minister, with a strong transport reputation
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [379033/32149/40]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:48, 1st September 2026
 
Going off at yet another slight tangent here, but this was not entirely unexpected, surely?

From the BBC:

Sir Keir Starmer announces he is standing down as MP


Since he resigned as prime minister in July, there was speculation over whether Sir Keir would stay on as MP - Image © PA Media

Former Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has announced he is to stand down as an MP to focus on a role in international affairs.

The move will trigger a by-election in the London seat of Holborn and St Pancras, long a Labour stronghold, which he has represented since 2015.

Sir Keir, who left Downing Street in July, had previously said he would stay on as an MP until the next UK general election, which is not due until 2029.  But in a surprise statement hours before his successor Andy Burnham made his debut in the House of Commons, he said he was resigning to work on issues such as international affairs and violence against women and girls.

Paying tribute to his predecessor, Burnham highlighted Sir Keir's work with Ukraine and the Hillsborough Law drawn up under his government to improve the accountability of public officials, which is going through Parliament.

"He has given this country a lifetime of public service, particularly for those fighting for justice," he added.  "His leadership took our party from one of its worst defeats to its best victories and created a platform to change this country for the better. We will use it well, and we wish his family the very best for the future."

Announcing his resignation, Sir Keir told the Camden New Journal it had been a "huge honour and privilege" to represent the London constituency for 11 years, ending weeks of speculation about whether he would remain an MP.

He added he was ready to "pass the baton to a successor", telling the newspaper it was the "right time" for him to leave Parliament.  He said: "I will now focus on other things and that will be international affairs including defence, security, trade and technology in a fast-changing world.

"I will also continue, as I have done for a long time now with others, to work on combating violence against women and girls; that is an issue that matters to me hugely.  It's work I started before I became an MP and it's work I'm keen to continue after I'm an MP. So international affairs on the one hand, and continuing my work on violence against women and girls on the other."

Sir Keir became prime minister after winning a landslide majority at the 2024 election, but quit No 10 after pressure from Labour MPs to stand aside.

Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch wished Sir Keir the best for the future adding: "I can understand why he would not want to spend time with the Labour MPs who treated him so badly after he won them their seats."

Tory Party chairman Kevin Hollinrake accused Sir Keir of making "another U-turn having pledged to stay on", prompting a "costly by-election for taxpayers".

A date will not be set for the by-election until Sir Keir formally resigns his Commons seat.  This will only be confirmed once the government has given him a crown appointment, the mechanism that disqualifies him from being an MP.

Labour expects to select a candidate for the by-election by 9 September, according to the party's website.  Holborn and St Pancras has long been a Labour stronghold, with Sir Keir securing a more than 11,000-vote majority at the last general election in 2024.

(BBC article continues)


Re: Wanted - a bit of automated intelligence.
In "Fare's Fair" [379032/32442/4]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:44, 1st September 2026
 
Many years ago (well, twenty, give or take one) we had a similar expert, Dave, in the morning ticket office at Nailsea & Backwell.  That was in the days of Wessex Trains (pah! ), but he was absolutely brilliant: what he didn't know about railway ticketing wouldn't even use up the back of a postage stamp.

CfN. 

Re: 'Surveillance pricing'.
In "Fare's Fair" [379031/32345/4]
Posted by Mark A at 19:32, 1st September 2026
 
Thanks for that link.

Mark

Re: 'Surveillance pricing'.
In "Fare's Fair" [379030/32345/4]
Posted by 1st fan at 19:31, 1st September 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
It's probably good to know that surveillance pricing exists. (I didn't.) Prices for items are not displayed and a system checks what it knows about someone and presents a personalised price for that person - which may take account of e.g. their pain point. It could be argued that dynamic pricing / surge pricing is on the way to this, but for the addition of the personal data aspect. It's easy to think how this could go south & become a 'mare for everyone if it crept in to transport ticketing.

Mark

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveillance_pricing

Sadly, pricing based on what people appear to be able to pay does exist and has for many years. I suspect I have seen it on airline fares where an enquiry gives a price, then (having checked with family) a couple of minutes later the fare offer is higher.  Do we also see elements of it where prices are available only to new customers?

Even before "internet days", living in a bigger house we got very familiar with quotations for the same service being - we felt - adjusted upwards having seen where we lived.   


Edit note: Minor typo corrected, for clarity. CfN. 

I have looked into this for a family member who was convinced a British airline had done this to them. I checked on the ITA Matrix https://matrix.itasoftware.com/search and found that the fare she was looking for had indeed gone. It wasn’t related to her or her prior searches it was just that fare had sold out. Someone else I knew at the time checked the actual fare buckets and the cheapy, non refundable, no changes bucket was now showing as 0. She bought the slightly more expensive fare and then when she was selecting her seats noticed there were very few unselected ones. Turns out it was a very popular and full flight.

Re: Coffee shop - posting stats as we approach our 20th birthday
In "News, Help and Assistance" [379029/32441/29]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:29, 1st September 2026
 
... I don't visit every day, but when I do, there's always something ... annoying ... to be found.

Me, for example. 

Bus journeys in west of Scotland to be capped at £2 from Monday
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [379028/32448/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:26, 1st September 2026
 
From the BBC:

Bus journeys in west of Scotland to be capped at £2 from Monday


The bus fare cap will cover journeys in Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Ayrshire, Dunbartonshire, Lanarkshire and Inverclyde - Image © Getty Images

Bus fares in the west of Scotland will be capped at £2, First Minister John Swinney has announced.

The move takes effect from Monday morning for journeys in Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Ayrshire, Dunbartonshire, Lanarkshire and Inverclyde.

In his programme for government, Swinney also confirmed plans to cut Scotland's health boards from 14 to two in what he said was the "most significant structural reform in the NHS in the era of devolution".

He vowed that by 2031, no patient will wait longer than 26 weeks for the treatment they need - an apparent downgrade on a promise in 2011 that patients should not wait longer than 12 weeks for inpatient or day-case treatment after diagnosis.

This is the first programme for government in the seventh session of the Scottish Parliament and outlines the government's policy and legislative goals.

The bus fare announcement is part of an SNP manifesto pledge to cut the cost of bus travel to £2 per single fare for every journey in the country by the end of this parliamentary term.

A cap is already in place in the Highlands and islands. Swinney did not say when it will be extended to the rest of Scotland.

(BBC article continues)


Re: Wanted - a bit of automated intelligence.
In "Fare's Fair" [379027/32442/4]
Posted by 1st fan at 19:20, 1st September 2026
 
The old ticket office at Kensington Olympia (KPA) which was the old Motorail one from back in the days of old was staffed by an Ex-BR bloke who was fabulous. He knew everything and was always happy to do odd tickets that others would stuggle with, or check something in the fares manual for you. It has, since becoming an TFL Overground station, been closed and replaced by a portacabin type thing at the other platform entrance and a bank of ticket machines.

My gripe with GWR and their ticket machines at Paddington is that they don’t accept the three letter code for a station which I habitually type in first, before realising that it isn’t showing me my destination. This is really annoying if you’ve just arrived, a little late for the train you’re hoping to get. Also don’t understand why they took the ticket machine(s) away from the Taxi Rank at Paddington. Last time I was there there were HEX ones but not GWR ones, it may have been temporary ans they may have been put back subsequently. Still bloody annoying though.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads unusual activity
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [379026/32174/47]
Posted by bobm at 19:10, 1st September 2026
 
The class 47s, as they became, first appeared in the early 1960s while Nottingham Victoria closed in September 1967.   So it was a brief co-existence.

Re: 3rd and final (for now) "Rail related but no trains"
In "The Lighter Side" [379025/32437/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:55, 1st September 2026
 
Thanks, stuving. 

Re: 2 of 3 - rail related but no trains
In "The Lighter Side" [379024/32435/30]
Posted by johnneyw at 18:19, 1st September 2026
 
Stroud is the one I forgot. So 4 it is at the mo - two more possibly following at Great Malvern & Surbiton....

I presume that would replace the sadly missed Lady Foley's tea room at Great Malvern.

Re: Science Museum Group Collection, Wroughton
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [379023/32443/47]
Posted by johnneyw at 18:08, 1st September 2026
 
Duly inspired, I am currently refining my plans for an autumn visit.

Re: 3rd and final (for now) "Rail related but no trains"
In "The Lighter Side" [379022/32437/30]
Posted by stuving at 18:06, 1st September 2026
 
C12.  Ballymote station, on the Sligo to Dublin line.

Right country ... shame about the town

C12: Castlebar - I thought that one looked familiar, though not by being the other Castlebar that I grew up close to.

Trip Report: 29-30/08/2026 2 Days At Lord’s For England v Pakistan
In "London to the West" [379021/32447/12]
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 18:06, 1st September 2026
 
29/08/26 - Exeter To London + Local Travel & Cricket
DIG 0914 (OT) > EXD 0926 (OT) : 2T11 EXM > PGN : 1 x 166/2 (3 Cars)
EXD 0946 (OT) > PAD 1209 (1214) : 1A77 PGN > PAD : 1 x 800/3 (9 Cars)
TfL Underground Paddington > Warwick Avenue (Bakerloo Line)
TfL Underground Warwick Avenue > Paddington (Bakerloo Line)
PAD 1824 (OT) > WEA 1836 (OT) : 9H66 ABW > HAF : 1 x 345 (9 Cars)
Tickets (All With Senior Railcard, 1 Pax, Price Per Person):
DIG > PAD Super Off-Peak Return £76.65
TfL Underground Single £1.95 x 2
TfL Elizabeth Line Single £2.15

I had originally booked to travel on 2T07 + 1A73 (DIG 0714 > PAD 1008) but the overnight/morning rain was obviously going to prevent any play at Lord’s until the early afternoon so I delayed my journey by a couple of hours.
2T11 was initially lightly loaded but a large number of pax boarded at POL. Ticket, but not Railcard, checked.
1A77 was also not very busy to start with but plenty of pax joined at both TAU & CLC. Service slightly delayed at CLC and then more significantly between Lavington & Woodborough due to residual heat related track issues (one particularly noticeable track dip) and arrived PAD 5 late.
Ticket, but not railcard, checked.
Static Standard Class trolley service, between coaches D&G, for only a short time. The customer host(s) was/were serving 1st Class most of the time.

On arrival in London the rain had essentially stopped so I did my usual one stop trip to Warwick Avenue and walked to Lord’s from there. The Bakerloo Line ride quality was awful!
After a rain shower interrupted afternoon of cricket play was suspended at around 1730 and finally abandoned about an hour later.
I made my way to the West Ealing Holiday Inn Express which had been significantly improved since my last stay there.

30/08/26 - Local Travel & Cricket + London To Exeter
WEA 0924 (0936) > PAD 0937 (0947) : 9W40 HAF > SNF : 1 x 345 (9 Cars)
TfL Underground Paddington > Warwick Avenue (Bakerloo Line)
TfL Underground Warwick Avenue > Paddington (Bakerloo Line)
PAD 1903 (1916) > EXD 2110 (2126) : 1C94 : 2 x 802/0 (10 cars)
EXD 2153 (OT) > DIG 2205 (OT) : 2F28 PGN > EXM : 1 x 166/2 (3 Cars)
TfL Elizabeth Line Single £2.15
TfL Underground Single £1.95 x 2
DIG > PAD Super Off-Peak Return (See Above)

Lots of late running & cancellations in & out of PAD in the morning. I don’t think you have to be a genius to figure out the primary cause was probably staff absences due to it being the first day of the Notting Hill Carnival.
9W40 was absolutely rammed and some pax were unable to board at WEA.
After the match ended (England victory) there were no issues on the Bakerloo Line but spectators leaving Lord’s were advised to avoid the Jubilee Line.
On arrival at PAD I noticed that 1C94 was already showing a departure delay of 7 minutes. That was somewhat optimistic because the incoming train, 1A26 from BRI, was already 20+ minutes late.
In the meantime our booked platform, 4,  was occupied for about 15 minutes by an Elizabeth Line 345 unit. Very odd.
1C94 eventually left PAD 13 minutes down and this level of delay hardly changed on the run to EXD.
Of note was the chap sat diagonally opposite me was found by the TM, who did a full ticket & railcard check - wonders will never cease!, to be travelling to Taunton on a railcard discounted Advance but didn’t actually possess a railcard of any kind. The passenger told the TM somebody else had booked the ticket for him. TM warned him about doing that in future and charged him £71.95 for a brand new ticket (your task, should you decide to accept it, is to figure out where the TM got that price from, I was unable to solve the riddle!).
And finally in an unexpected outbreak of common sense on our railway 1C94 was routed into P5 at EXD so intending passengers could do a cross-platform change to P6 where 2K15 the last OKE service of the day, which had been held for 8 minutes, was waiting. Well done them!

Re: Bristol Temple Meads unusual activity
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [379020/32174/47]
Posted by ellendune at 17:52, 1st September 2026
 
The class 47... one of the types of loco that, for the brief time that that station, the line and the locos coexisted, passed through Nottingham Victoria on long distance express duties.

Mark

I didn't realise the 47s were that old my first recollections of Nottingham Victoria was as a multi-storey car park and that was 51 years ago.

Re: Science Museum Group Collection, Wroughton
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [379019/32443/47]
Posted by ellendune at 17:49, 1st September 2026
 
I have been there too, really worthwhile.

3rd October 2026 - Finsbury Park Bus Running Day
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [379018/32446/34]
Posted by grahame at 17:42, 1st September 2026
 
https://secretldn.com/london-bus-museum-heritage-days/

The London Bus Museum’s Route 106 Heritage Day

In case you weren’t already aware, the London Bus Museum is home to the largest collection of historic London buses in the world, making them pretty well-equipped for any bus-related events, don’t you think? Next month’s fare-free vintage bus rides will take place across the iconic Number 106 bus route. From 10am until 5pm on October 3, a fleet of these bright red buses (dating from between the 1950s and the 1970s) will be running in both directions between Finsbury Park and Ash Grove.

Re: Wanted - a bit of automated intelligence.
In "Fare's Fair" [379017/32442/4]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:26, 1st September 2026
 
Going off at another slight tangent (and I can, because I'm an admin ), there is a human equivalent reliance on familiarity here.

On a couple of occasions, I have used the ticket office at Nailsea & Backwell, on weekday mornings when it is open, on the principle, 'use it or lose it'.

On both occasions, staff were very efficient.  The young lady, from her accent possibly East European, so English was not her first language, had never heard of 'Melksham' or 'Kemble' - but was happy to look them up when I spelled them out for her.  I got the impression she had to type in the full name on her ticket machine, rather than the three letter station codes, which I offered her as an initial suggestion.

CfN. 

Re: 2 of 3 - rail related but no trains
In "The Lighter Side" [379016/32435/30]
Posted by Mark A at 17:10, 1st September 2026

Re: 2 of 3 - rail related but no trains
In "The Lighter Side" [379015/32435/30]
Posted by ChrisB at 16:33, 1st September 2026
 
Chain? ....only just I think - perhaps 4 or 5 maximum. Started off at Birmingham Moor Street, expanded out to Leamington then a couple more. This I think is the only one off the Chiltern route. The owner is a lovely lass too.

Stroud is the one I forgot. So 4 it is at the mo - two more possibly following at Great Malvern & Surbiton....

Re: 2 of 3 - rail related but no trains
In "The Lighter Side" [379014/32435/30]
Posted by LiskeardRich at 16:16, 1st September 2026
 
B4, Bregenz Austria.

Re: 2 of 3 - rail related but no trains
In "The Lighter Side" [379013/32435/30]
Posted by ChrisB at 15:57, 1st September 2026
 
Chain? ....only just I think - perhaps 4 or 5 maximum. Started off at Birmingham Moor Street, expanded out to Leamington then a couple more. This I think is the only one off the Chiltern route. The owner is a lovely lass too.

Re: 2 of 3 - rail related but no trains
In "The Lighter Side" [379012/32435/30]
Posted by johnneyw at 15:52, 1st September 2026
 
B6.  Taunton.

Thanks for the hint / prod, ChrisB. 


By coincidence and train cancellations, I found myself at Taunton Station on Sunday with an hour to wait and tried out the Centenary Lounge showing in the picture.  They've made a half decent job of the interior with separate access from outside the station too, along with outdoor seating. It also did a corking Cappuccino and Blueberry Muffin.  I was a little surprised to find it was a part of a chain serving a number of stations.... perhaps Temple Meads could take note as they could do worse.

Re: 2 of 3 - rail related but no trains
In "The Lighter Side" [379011/32435/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:26, 1st September 2026
 
Potsdam is exactly right.  Wow - as I put the quiz together I thought "this one will be tough".

Never underestimate the wide knowledge of our members, grahame.

Except me, obviously.

Re: Change to Number 8 service at Temple Meads
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [379009/32445/5]
Posted by Mark A at 14:05, 1st September 2026
 
That's an issue, as the direct route is presumably back through the station barriers.
**snip**

Looking at the map and putting my brain into gear,  the station-barriers-free route (and ~100 yards shorter) is head down the station ramp to the rather savage T1 stop.

Re: Change to Number 8 service at Temple Meads
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [379008/32445/5]
Posted by Mark A at 13:56, 1st September 2026
 
Looking at the route for the No 8,, the Avon Street / Temple Way junction is or was left turn only so has presumably been very recently heavily  remodelled...

 
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